Refinish signs?

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Refinish signs?

Post by Gavanti » Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:31 am

I'm considering a 70s custom color JM, but I have some questions about the finish. It clearly looks old and with real wear, but some of the finish wear looks more consistent with nitro rather than poly, and when I got photos of the insides, I noticed that the finish looks like it may be over sunburst (not necessarily unusual) and was not sprayed fully in the trem and rhythm cavities. The other examples I've seen online seem to have fully sprayed body cavities. Thoughts?

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Re: Refinish signs?

Post by Axolotl » Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:41 am

IMHO, neck pocket shows clearly it's a refinish. Trem cavity points me in that direction too. Do I also see some greenish paint in both?

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Post by Gavanti » Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:01 pm

Axolotl wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:41 am
IMHO, neck pocket shows clearly it's a refinish. Trem cavity points me in that direction too. Do I also see some greenish paint in both?
Yes, the green is odd. I wasn't certain what to make of that.

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Post by JSett » Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:14 pm

Refin.

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Post by Gavanti » Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:10 pm

Too bad—I would consider a refin, especially one that looks this good, but the price seems high for that. Thanks for the confirmation.

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Re: Refinish signs?

Post by terminalvertigo » Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:57 am

Could the green not be from the aged gold undercoat from the CAR?

no matching headstock i assume?
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Post by Gavanti » Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:10 am

terminalvertigo wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:57 am
Could the green not be from the aged gold undercoat from the CAR?

no matching headstock i assume?
Not sure--I had considered that. There does appear to be a metallic undercoat in a few spots (screw holes, finish stuck to the neck heel). The finish is definitely old.

I have a few early 70s Fenders, and the headstock looks right.

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Re: Refinish signs?

Post by Nudger » Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:46 am

terminalvertigo wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:57 am
Could the green not be from the aged gold undercoat from the CAR?
Thatd be my guess, im sure ive seen a thread on here bout the same thing..

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Re: Refinish signs?

Post by i love sharin foo » Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:18 pm

Looks like refinish to me. The color looks good though. If the price were right it could still be a solid guitar. Like has already been said, the neck pocket and trem cavity tell the story.
Now count every rhododendron in this cool mountain light, I made more mistakes than that just tonight

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Post by Gavanti » Sat Mar 22, 2025 12:54 pm

i love sharin foo wrote:
Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:18 pm
Looks like refinish to me. The color looks good though. If the price were right it could still be a solid guitar. Like has already been said, the neck pocket and trem cavity tell the story.
Yeah--I agree, it's really nice, and I love aging CAR, but the seller seems convinced it's original finish despite signs otherwise, so the price is too high for me.

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Post by i love sharin foo » Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:05 pm

That sucks. I’m sure somebody will eventually buy it thinking that it is an original finish. I have never been a real big fan of reissues in Candy Apple red, but I like originals a lot after some fading and wear. I may be biased, but my ‘64 CAR Jaguar is just about perfect to me. The lighting in this photo makes it look brighter than it really is.
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Post by Gavanti » Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:10 pm

i love sharin foo wrote:
Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:05 pm

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Yeah—that's really nice!

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Re: Refinish signs?

Post by catalyst » Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:54 pm

Looks great!

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