"Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by GilmourD » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:51 am

sal paradise wrote:
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What is the average 70s Strat missing?

A Floyd Rose…
Considering Floyd Roses started coming out in the early '80s I'm actually surprised there's not more '70s Strats with them... Although Floyd himself insisted that only he or an authorized installer could put them on for the first couple years so they were generally cleaner than that.

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Post by Pacafeliz » Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:40 pm

sal paradise wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:32 am
What is the average 70s Strat missing?

A Floyd Rose…
Aaah yes MORE WEIGHT yes...
(says the guy who plays a plexi Dan Armstrong with vibrato and metal pickguard... etc. :squint: )
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Post by PlayWithPride » Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:47 am

Rob wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:11 pm
Relicing -- I get it. But why would someone pay retail for a brand new guitar and immediately inflict a war crime of an artificial checking job upon it ("did the finish checking myself on purpose")? Despite being "very proud of how it turned out," they "barely played it," and now someone should give them allllll their money back to take this damaged guitar off their hands.

Is there anyone out there that would think "Yeah, I could pay $2399 USD to have a brand new one sent to my house, but I'd rather pay $2600 (shipping!) for a used one that fell down a staircase of razors."
Yeah, paying extra for a predamaged (otherwise) new guitar is idiotic. Fortunately for those relic'ers, there is no shortage of idiotic fakers who like damaged instruments.

But this "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?" is for Fender itself. Frankly a large bonfire would have been more acceptable than releasing this monstrosity. Behold. The Fender Swinging Arrow (or Swinger/Arrow/Musiclander, whatever they called it) from 1969: eBay Auction

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Talk about a frankenstein partscaster! And in this case, neither the body nor the neck are salvageable, even if you find one in mint shape!
$4k for that. I wouldn't pay $125 for that. What? Because it's old? LOL!
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Post by PorkyPrimeCut » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:27 am

PlayWithPride wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:47 am
...Behold. The Fender Swinging Arrow (or Swinger/Arrow/Musiclander, whatever they called it) from 1969...
There's actually some love for Swingers on this forum (although I'm not really a fan), much the same as there is for Mavericks, that also had that kind of LeftoverPartsCaster vibe about them.
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Post by X-Ray Spex » Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:52 pm

PorkyPrimeCut wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:27 am
PlayWithPride wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:47 am
...Behold. The Fender Swinging Arrow (or Swinger/Arrow/Musiclander, whatever they called it) from 1969...
There's actually some love for Swingers on this forum (although I'm not really a fan), much the same as there is for Mavericks, that also had that kind of LeftoverPartsCaster vibe about them.
Mavericks kick ass, such a shame Fender's attempt at a reissue was so so wrong. Wrong scale, wrong pickups, wrong vibrato :fp:
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Steadyriot. » Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:48 am

PlayWithPride wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:47 am
Rob wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:11 pm
Relicing -- I get it. But why would someone pay retail for a brand new guitar and immediately inflict a war crime of an artificial checking job upon it ("did the finish checking myself on purpose")? Despite being "very proud of how it turned out," they "barely played it," and now someone should give them allllll their money back to take this damaged guitar off their hands.

Is there anyone out there that would think "Yeah, I could pay $2399 USD to have a brand new one sent to my house, but I'd rather pay $2600 (shipping!) for a used one that fell down a staircase of razors."
Yeah, paying extra for a predamaged (otherwise) new guitar is idiotic. Fortunately for those relic'ers, there is no shortage of idiotic fakers who like damaged instruments.

But this "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?" is for Fender itself. Frankly a large bonfire would have been more acceptable than releasing this monstrosity. Behold. The Fender Swinging Arrow (or Swinger/Arrow/Musiclander, whatever they called it) from 1969: eBay Auction

Image
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Talk about a frankenstein partscaster! And in this case, neither the body nor the neck are salvageable, even if you find one in mint shape!
$4k for that. I wouldn't pay $125 for that. What? Because it's old? LOL!
Those are amazing and you should feel bad for saying this.
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Pacafeliz » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:07 am

Steadyriot. wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:48 am

Those are amazing and you should feel bad for saying this.
+1 >:(
i love delay SO much ...that i procrastinate all the time.

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Post by LVC » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:09 am

Pacafeliz wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:07 am
Steadyriot. wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:48 am

Those are amazing and you should feel bad for saying this.
+1 >:(

Another Swinger fan here :freako:


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$4k for that. I wouldn't pay $125 for that. What? Because it's old? LOL!

Because it's one of Fender's rarest guitars. Reportedly only 250 to 600 were ever made.
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Post by ainm » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:54 am

I’m Im probably the wrong person to be looking at guitars like that because my immediate thought whenever I see a Swinger is “I wonder if the repurposed bodies were blanks or routed for two pickups”. I’d instantly be down on any resale because of a resolder. Don’t know if that’d be enough to end up in this thread, but it feels bad.

On the other hand, if anyone finds one where that wouldn’t be a problem, hit me up :D I don’t typically lust after vintage guitars that have seen multiple reissues, but rare stuff like Swingers or even stuff like Duo-Sonic II’s, which were short-lived and slightly different to the more enduring Mustangs, have always tickled me. Who wouldn’t want a Swinger?

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Post by Ceylon » Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:02 pm

Love the Swinger, hate the Maverick
Science Friction burns my fingers
Electricity still lingers

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Post by ThePearDream » Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:07 pm

I'm a fan. I made a Swinger copy not knowing what to expect. They are really fun though and have a certain charm.
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Post by Pacafeliz » Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:20 pm

Ceylon wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:02 pm
Love the Swinger, hate the Maverick
Well the Maverick hates you too! >:(
i love delay SO much ...that i procrastinate all the time.

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Post by Ceylon » Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:26 pm

Pacafeliz wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:20 pm
Ceylon wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:02 pm
Love the Swinger, hate the Maverick
Well the Maverick hates you too! >:(
I refuse to believe it is capable of love
Science Friction burns my fingers
Electricity still lingers

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Post by GilmourD » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:02 pm

ThePearDream wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:07 pm
I'm a fan. I made a Swinger copy not knowing what to expect. They are really fun though and have a certain charm.
I believe that your love is the justification it needs. You are incapable of building anything without beauty.

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Post by ThePearDream » Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:07 pm

GilmourD wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:02 pm
ThePearDream wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:07 pm
I'm a fan. I made a Swinger copy not knowing what to expect. They are really fun though and have a certain charm.
I believe that your love is the justification it needs. You are incapable of building anything without beauty.
Oh, I'm very capable, I just don't post the bad stuff on the Internet very often ;)
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