NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by Pacafeliz » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:14 pm

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i love delay SO much ...that i procrastinate all the time.

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by Tree's » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:36 am

If you have access to a good air compressor, put an air nozzle directly against the edge of the chipping paint at around 150psi. The air will find its way under the loose finish and chase it off in sheets. ;)

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by rbrcbr » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:48 pm

Tree's wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:36 am
If you have access to a good air compressor, put an air nozzle directly against the edge of the chipping paint at around 150psi. The air will find its way under the loose finish and chase it off in sheets. ;)
Interesting, I’ll have to see if anyone I know has one I can try out!
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Yeah just a little washing up liquid.

Only other advice I've got is don't be afraid of REALLY taking your time with this. It's worth getting right, and can definitely be done
Gotcha. Yeah, trying to stay patient. It’s so difficult hahaha

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Here’s where I ended up sanding through the original finish a bit, right above the neck plate.

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This was a combination of sanding with 400 and using lacquer thinner to clear away the smearing caused by sanding. the gold looks kind of cool, but also right now totally looks like a terrible relic job.

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Made some progress on the horn last night, slowly chipping away.

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This where my tech had tried some sandpaper and lacquer as well. Got down to the original finish easily and just had to scrape away from of the base coat of the gold. Super scared of getting into these contours. Definitely going to try the 1000 grit wetsanding when I get a chance.

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I finally got myself a Staytrem! 8)
Man, it makes such a difference. The bridge that was on there had to have been a Squier version or something because it was straight trash. Caused so much buzzing at the bridge and whenever I fretted anything, so much so that I thought it was going to need a refret. Maybe it was just super poorly setup but right off the bat, the staytrem feels a million times better. So glad it worked out. Just need to fine tune the action/intonation and it’s golden. I see what all the fuss is about.

Still need to see if I can get to the original finish on the headstock. Haven’t made the time to take it apart and chip away yet.

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by YALCaster » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:59 am

Any update?

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by rbrcbr » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:32 pm

YALCaster wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:59 am
Any update?
Just finally got around to working on it last night and today, just haven't made the time otherwise. Mostly because I didn't want to keep taking it apart and putting it back together because I wanted to play it.

I completely disassembled it last night to make myself commit to getting this done. I forgot how bad the route job was and the wiring is probably something I'll replace once it comes time to put it back together.

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The shielding is practically trash, will probably replace that too.

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Check out this sweet glob of solder, covered in multiple coats of paint! I had to clip the grounding wires to get the shield out, as the soldering iron couldn't get the solder hot enough because of the paint.

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Here is after wet sanding @ 1000 grit for 6 hours today, I'm already tired of looking at this thing :fp:

...good progress though.

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Here's to hoping things continue to go well!

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by YALCaster » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:42 pm

Looks kinda cool how it is now! It’ll be cool to the original though. Good work!

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by sallikaan » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:42 am

Looks like a legit relic, loved it
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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by Embenny » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:24 am

Slowly but surely, you're getting there!
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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by blackbox » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:55 am

Fun stuff. Looking like a gem is under there.

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by rbrcbr » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:19 pm

Well guys, I'm starting to think this one was refinished for a good reason. Sanded a bit to try and get through the gold (I swear they aren't sand throughs) and in a couple spots it went from gold straight to what looks like woodgrain? What do you guys think? The texture even feels different when the sandpaper goes over it. The spot to the right in the photo went from gold to red and straight to white, where it should have gone red to CFM.

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Not sure it's salvageable at this point, thinking it might be best to go ahead and strip it and prep it to send it off to Danocaster. I don't have too much time to constantly work on sanding this finish down.

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by mgeek » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:28 am

forearm wear? If time is an issue, you could always hand it over to someone else to finish?

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by rbrcbr » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:35 am

mgeek wrote:
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forearm wear? If time is an issue, you could always hand it over to someone else to finish?
Could be forearm wear, for sure. Just looks like enough is missing that maybe it was intentional? I don't know. I'll keep at it and see if anything good comes out of it. Definitely considered sending it off. Mike Adams offered to help if I needed to send it off, so that might be the next step. It's mostly that I'm trying to save money and do it myself.

Wish me luck!

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by Embenny » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:16 am

So many twists and turns in this drama. Really curious to find out what is under there overall and whether it's salvageable.
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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by rbrcbr » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:51 pm

mbene085 wrote:
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So many twists and turns in this drama. Really curious to find out what is under there overall and whether it's salvageable.
Tell me about it, man.

Tonight's progress after a couple hours of wetsanding at 1000 grit. This is me sanding past gold and whatever you see here is what was under the gold. Looks pretty beat to me, down to the wood towards the top of the contour. The finish aside from the arm wear seems like it's pretty intact, especially surrounding the tailpiece.

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Part of me is also thinking that maybe it was worn down enough for the previous owner to start sanding away the finish to start a refin, then get tired of it and just spray over what was there? It doesn't look like the most natural wear.

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Re: NGD: 1966 Jag Refin

Post by N0_Camping4U » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:49 am

So was it once Charcoal Frost then?
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