Hi. I have some question about my 1969 JM.

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Hi. I have some question about my 1969 JM.

Post by indieguitar119 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:19 am

Hi. NGD :D
I got 1969 JM few day ago.

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Grover F tuner installed,
Seller said, it is quite rare guitar, and It is also the clue about made in 68-69.
I research serial number, result was '68-69' (Serial number is '257XXX' )

Here is my question.
I checked neck heel but It date is quite uncertain, I can't recognize neck date.
It seems, 「1X / FEB / XX / B」 to me.

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I want to know when made it is.
Not a 68-69, specific year.
How about you guys opinion?

Have a nice day ;D
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Post by s_mcsleazy » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:32 am

pat is the expert on 70's offsets but it all looks pretty legit. block inlays, very typical tort of the time, correct decal

the burst looks a wee bit off but i've seen a few jazzmasters with a slightly off burst from factory.
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Post by surfin_bird » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:56 am

This grovers can be 100% original. They are the fender kind which only came on fender guitars - as far as I know. But in the same time this is a rare sight. The decal looks legit in placement and the tortoise matches others from that time period. All I can say is that those witchhats look very yellow. Which makes me think it has been in its case most of its life or played in smokey bars. (Or the knobs are repro’s)

But its an extremely lovely guitar! I wouldn’t worry too much about originality because it looks like the real deal from here. Probably worth to check the electronics though.

I always feel that the 68-69’s look like they tried to implement new design features without matching a 100% - in a good way.

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Post by pad » Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:46 pm

those tuers are alone worth buying this guitar. :? :? :?

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Post by Gavanti » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:22 pm

A JM with grovers is definitely high on my list. Nice find!

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Post by Pacafeliz » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:15 pm

I used to own a Jazzy just like that, with Grovers ( I call them "smoker's teeth") and all.
Can't help you with the neck stamp but to me it looks legit. BUT maybe it's the pic, but is the body really so clean and shiny as it looks? That seems kinda weird because the neck wood looks pretty worn and weathered.

Post more pics please, but yes, these tuners were used ~68-70 or so, first on Coronados, then the rest on Jazzmasters.
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Re: Hi. I have some question about my 1969 JM.

Post by indieguitar119 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:18 am

s_mcsleazy wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:32 am
pat is the expert on 70's offsets but it all looks pretty legit. block inlays, very typical tort of the time, correct decal

the burst looks a wee bit off but i've seen a few jazzmasters with a slightly off burst from factory.
I think camera and brightness is affected burst color. here is new picture :?
How about this? ;D

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Post by indieguitar119 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 am

surfin_bird wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:56 am
This grovers can be 100% original. They are the fender kind which only came on fender guitars - as far as I know. But in the same time this is a rare sight. The decal looks legit in placement and the tortoise matches others from that time period. All I can say is that those witchhats look very yellow. Which makes me think it has been in its case most of its life or played in smokey bars. (Or the knobs are repro’s)

But its an extremely lovely guitar! I wouldn’t worry too much about originality because it looks like the real deal from here. Probably worth to check the electronics though.

I always feel that the 68-69’s look like they tried to implement new design features without matching a 100% - in a good way.
Thank your comment. It's very helpful to me.
I will check electronics as you said, when i met my friend.
Because he expert of offset's :shifty:

Have a nice day ! ;D

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Post by indieguitar119 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:45 am

Pacafeliz wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:15 pm
I used to own a Jazzy just like that, with Grovers ( I call them "smoker's teeth") and all.
Can't help you with the neck stamp but to me it looks legit. BUT maybe it's the pic, but is the body really so clean and shiny as it looks? That seems kinda weird because the neck wood looks pretty worn and weathered.

Post more pics please, but yes, these tuners were used ~68-70 or so, first on Coronados, then the rest on Jazzmasters.
I absolutely loved mine but traded it for a Fender Maverick. :-*
Thanks your comment.
I took this picture late night, I think Camera and brightness is affected burst color
I took a new pic more bright situation. here is new pic :D

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The volume pot is changed, but I still have old one.
It seems "015529 1MEG LI / 304-6617".

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I don't have knowlage about old pot, How about your opinion of this pot date?
Have a nice day ;D

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Post by Pacafeliz » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:07 am

We that all looks 100% fine to me, wonderful guitar!
The 1966 pot is also normal, they used them up into the early 70s.

All legit. :-*
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Post by s_mcsleazy » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:01 am

much better. that looks way more accurate. those late 60's bursts are really reliant on a good light to get photographed. i'd say it looks legit.
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