Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
User avatar
scottme
Expat
Expat
Posts: 1104
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:57 pm
Location: Newcastle
Contact:

Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by scottme » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:07 pm

Hi all,

What is the earliest Bloacks and Binding Jazzmaster neck that you guys have seen?

Apparently, my 66 JM (which I haven't quite received yet) has a B&B neck with a Feb 66 date. I know that dots and binding necks go well into 66, so there seems to be some parallel production going on then. I haven't really seen any B&B necks before mid 66, although I'm sure they're out there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1

I wonder if mine is from an initial preproduction batch intended for Strats that never really happened, so they just threw them into the JM lot, and then later they switched over to full B&B?

User avatar
fullerplast
Mods
Mods
Posts: 12710
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:53 am
Location: In My Room

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by fullerplast » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:45 pm

I think David (Sookwinder) is maintaining a spreadsheet with serial numbers and dates for B&B. I'm sure he'll chip in when he sees this...

Man, that's a nice one you're getting!
Last edited by fullerplast on Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Q. Are we not men?

User avatar
scottme
Expat
Expat
Posts: 1104
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:57 pm
Location: Newcastle
Contact:

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by scottme » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:50 pm

Thanks Doug. I suspect that the photos don't really do it justice. Looks like this and my 72 thinline will arrive within days of each other. Talk about an early christmas!

User avatar
daydreamdelay
Mods
Mods
Posts: 5929
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:56 am

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by daydreamdelay » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:54 pm

congrats.. that's a really nice one and it's definitely got the earliest B&B neck I've seen

mine is september '66 and my old D&B neck was march '66 so there was some overlap there for sure

User avatar
fullerplast
Mods
Mods
Posts: 12710
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:53 am
Location: In My Room

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by fullerplast » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:55 pm

Did you get it for that bid that's showing? What a deal!   8)

I had one Jaguar that was almost that clean, it was a '69.  It's in that album I posted earlier. Even a non-guitar guy who saw the pics at work today commented on it in particular. Those bursts really shine!

http://www.offsetguitars.com/personal/d ... ges/44.htm
Last edited by fullerplast on Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Q. Are we not men?

User avatar
scottme
Expat
Expat
Posts: 1104
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:57 pm
Location: Newcastle
Contact:

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by scottme » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:14 pm

The burst on the back looks a bit odd to me, but then again, they were hardly standard.

The seller split the difference between my registered final bid and their reserve, so I got it for $2500. I'm quite happy with that!

Yeh, I noticed that Jag, really nice - your pool sets it off nicely!

J - I'm happy for you that you're keeping your JM - I got some nice info from your detail pics.

User avatar
zhivago
Mods
Mods
Posts: 20880
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:18 am
Location: London, UK

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by zhivago » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:21 pm

the one I used to have was stamped 13OCT66B
Resident Spartan.

User avatar
fullerplast
Mods
Mods
Posts: 12710
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:53 am
Location: In My Room

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by fullerplast » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:53 pm

I'm quite happy with that!
Yeah, nice score! Very, very nice. Anymore it seems the 'brick and shoe polish' partmasters are bringing that!
Q. Are we not men?

User avatar
Mr M
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 552
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:26 pm

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by Mr M » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:23 pm

zhivago wrote: the one I used to have was stamped 13OCT66B
WHAT IN THE HECK?

did you sell it to anyone in virginia? and when?

how many Jazzmaster necks do you think they made per day?

and has anyone around here ever had the same day before?

it guess it's not too strange i know they made more than one per day.... but wow..i guess it could happen

do you have any pictures?

scottme wrote: The seller split the difference between my registered final bid and their reserve, so I got it for $2500. I'm quite happy with that!
DANG thank's how much i payed for mine (the one below) Nice score

Image

Image
Last edited by Mr M on Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
fullerplast
Mods
Mods
Posts: 12710
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:53 am
Location: In My Room

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by fullerplast » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:33 pm

WHAT IN THE HECK?

did you sell it to anyone in virginia? and when?

how many Jazzmaster necks do you think they made per day?

and has anyone around here ever had the same day before?
Not so odd... The stamp is not a date. The 13 is the model code.  Alot of B-width Jazzmaster necks left the factory in October of 66!

:)
Q. Are we not men?

User avatar
Mr M
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 552
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:26 pm

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by Mr M » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:38 pm

fullerplast wrote:
WHAT IN THE HECK?

did you sell it to anyone in virginia? and when?

how many Jazzmaster necks do you think they made per day?

and has anyone around here ever had the same day before?
Not so odd... The stamp is not a date. The 13 is the model code.  Alot of B-width Jazzmaster necks left the factory in October of 66!

:)
oh, my mistake. i just assumed that the first number was the date. woops :-[

so what does the model code mean?

User avatar
fullerplast
Mods
Mods
Posts: 12710
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:53 am
Location: In My Room

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by fullerplast » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:42 pm

Here is a 'cut and paste' from jimshine.com.  This is Jim's own work and the result of his excellent research. I don't think he would mind it appearing here, and I give him full credit:

_______________________________________________________________________________________________-


Fender Neck Codes 1962-1972



Fender began using a part code on necks rubber stamped on the end starting in April 1962. The Codes appear as such:

Example- 1 MAY 62 B

1 is a part code (not day of the month)

MAY is the month

62 = 1962

B= the nut width



The part codes are:



1- Jaguar 1962-1965

2-Stratocaster 1962-1965

3-Telecaster

4-Jazzmaster 1962-1965

5-Precision Bass

6-Bass 6

7-Jazz Bass

8-Musicmaster II, Mustang, Duo-Sonic II 1964-1965 22 fret 24" scale model

9-Musicmaster II, Mustang, Duo-Sonic II 1964-1966 21 fret 22 3/4" scale Model also found on '69 Swinger "Arrow/Musiclander"

10*- Coronado 1 and 2 and some 1966 Jazzmaster and Stratocaster necks

11-Bass 5

12-Electric 12 and Maverick/Custom model

13- Stratocaster 1966-1968, many 1966 Jazzmaster's too

14-Coronado 12

15-Jaguar 1966-1972

16-Musicmaster II, Mustang, Duo sonic II, and Bronco

17-Mustang Bass and MusicMaster Bass

18-Coronado Bass

19-Jazzmaster and Coronado 2

22- Stratocaster 1968-1972

23-Telecaster Bass

27-Villiager 12

28- Shenandoah 12

3/4- Musicmaster and Duo Sonic 21 fret small headstock first version 1962-early 1964



* Fender Jazzmaster and Stratocaster necks that have these codes have the appropriate full CBS headstock shape. If you see one of these with a Coronado headstock shape, small Strat headstock shape, or weird hybrid of old small and large headstock shapes, it is a reworked Coronado neck.
Last edited by fullerplast on Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Q. Are we not men?

User avatar
Mr M
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 552
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:26 pm

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by Mr M » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:47 pm

thanks alot. i guess you really do learn something new every day!

User avatar
zhivago
Mods
Mods
Posts: 20880
Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:18 am
Location: London, UK

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by zhivago » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:22 pm

Mr M wrote:
zhivago wrote: the one I used to have was stamped 13OCT66B
WHAT IN THE HECK?

did you sell it to anyone in virginia? and when?
no...I sold it to the singer in my band...it's black...matching headstock...block & binding.
Resident Spartan.

User avatar
RichieDagger
PAT PEND
PAT PEND
Posts: 1
Joined: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:27 am

Re: Earliest Blocks and Binding JM neck?

Post by RichieDagger » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:50 pm

Binding for Jags and Jm's in '65, blocks and binding in '66.

Post Reply