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Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:12 pm
by s_mcsleazy
did they route it with a butter knife?

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:14 am
by Tumtrah
Amon 7.L wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:46 am
SignoftheDragon wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:37 pm
AWSchmit wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:50 am
If all of this wasn't a solution looking for a problem, I don't know what is. The bridge in particular.

I will never get people chopping off top horns either... Do people WANT their guitars to be neck heavy and unbalanced?
No- but he reallyreallyreally wanted an SG apparently.
A logical explanation to such a little horn & deeper cutaway would be the carving being done to flip the guitar for a left-handed player and allow a better reach to the higher register.
Any trace of a plugged strap button on the lower horn?

I'm gonna follow this project with sheer interest, I love restorations :?
There is no hole or trace from a plugged strap button on the lower horn. Former and first owner isn't a lefty.

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:15 am
by ohm-men
I don't know if you've seen the "UnVOXed Jazzmaster" thread here.
This body reminds me a bit of the above, but far less worse.
Depending on your woodworker's skills, i'd say this body can be saved, should you want to.
I don't think it's in a too bad shape. The oversanding is not a bog problem if you repaint it. The missing horn can be recreated from a nice slab of Alder or whatever the original body was made of.

Also there is another thread here on a rescued Mustang, simelar process as the VOXMaster.
I think the owner of this guitar, recreated a new body from 2 butchered Mustang/MusicMaster bodies.

So, I'd see there is hope for this one!

One thing is for sure, they did crazy stuff in the 70's...

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:04 am
by Tumtrah
Yes, the Un-Voxing Jazzmaster restoration thread is great!

I will recreate the upper horn and fill the crude routings and holes. Due to the fact that I often play in bridge pickup position, I'll do a Duo Sonic conversion.

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:35 am
by Tumtrah
Made some progress...
Had to remove more material from the upper horn to recreate it and to have a little bit side grain surface to glue in the neck pocket area. Additional dowels will help to give a good glue joint, due to the fact that bonding end grain isn't solid . Cleaned and filled the routing and made some plugs.
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Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:49 am
by Zork
Oh, wow, that looks very good.

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:59 am
by ohm-men
:-* YES!!! That's exellent work!!!
I just love it when a plan comes together!

Great wood working skills! Duo Sonic is a perhaps nicer then a MM. It's always nice to have a bridge pu. :)
I wonder, was that "middle" P-90 pick ups something old? It looked the part (Althouhg not on the MM)

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:19 am
by Amon 7.L
Phenomenal work on the top horn! You've got mad skill, sir!! :w00t:

I'm with ohm-men on this, Duo Sonic is much nicer than a MM. On the subject, are you going to put a Toronado bridge with tele-barrel saddles or you've got other plans on your table?

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:32 am
by Pacafeliz
Whoa!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:41 am
by Bradley-Jazz
What a great job! I think I would have gone for two pickups as well (not that I could do that woodworking!!)

Is that the original blue paint in the cavities? What colour are you going to go for?

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:51 am
by Tumtrah
Thank you all for the nice comments!
Bradley-Jazz wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:41 am
What a great job! I think I would have gone for two pickups as well (not that I could do that woodworking!!)

Is that the original blue paint in the cavities? What colour are you going to go for?
Yes, that blue paint is the original colour and I will keep it. Additional I'll spray a slightly yellowed top coat to turn it somewhat greenish.
Amon 7.L wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:19 am
Phenomenal work on the top horn! You've got mad skill, sir!! :w00t:

I'm with ohm-men on this, Duo Sonic is much nicer than a MM. On the subject, are you going to put a Toronado bridge with tele-barrel saddles or you've got other plans on your table?
The original bridge plate is existing, so I try to get threaded bridge saddles or build them from threaded steel.
ohm-men wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:59 am
:-* YES!!! That's exellent work!!!
I just love it when a plan comes together!

Great wood working skills! Duo Sonic is a perhaps nicer then a MM. It's always nice to have a bridge pu. :)
I wonder, was that "middle" P-90 pick ups something old? It looked the part (Althouhg not on the MM)
Middle pickup was a mid 60's Gibson P90. Sadly the former owner wanted it back.

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:02 pm
by MatthewK
Glorious work!

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:57 am
by s_mcsleazy
ya know. this is going to be an unpopular opinion but might be a good idea to do something like this.
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the guitar is never going to be fully stock again so maybe have some fun with it

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:17 pm
by CROSS_guitars
Ha ha.
I'm responsible for the mods on that.

Re: Butchered '74 Musicmaster

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:57 pm
by soggy mittens
I remember that one, best MM ever... do it!!!