I think Doug does that sort of thing usually. He's an accomplished guitar and classic car refinisher.øøøøøøø wrote: Captain obvious here (maybe), but this time around, keep a scrap piece of wood handy when you spray your body. Everything you do to the body, do to the scrap piece.
Then you can tint clearcoat without fear. When it comes time to spray the clearcoat, you can experiment on the scrap piece to make sure the tint looks how you want.
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Re: P64 JAG.. Deja Vu
Damn kids, get off my lawn!
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Re: P64 JAG.. Deja Vu
what about a simple poo brown finish?
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Naw, you're cool. I can't believe how much trouble this guitar has been!øøøøøøø wrote:
Well, looks like I'm 0-2 now. Maybe I should stick to talking about what I know--amps!
Another Doug-built Jag....HERE.
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Re: P64 JAG.. Deja Vu
It's all cool.Well, looks like I'm 0-2 now.
FWIW - Here's the sample I made... not nearly as garish:
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 53#p151453
I think that it worked well on the smaller piece because I didn't have to "chase" the fan spray the way you have to in order to get a smooth finish.
Live and learn.
Well... I have some experience but I wouldn't use the term "accomplished"...He's an accomplished guitar and classic car refinisher.
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Waiting for the paint to arrive, I scrubbed the stripped body with acetone and #0000 steel wool. It looks alot cleaner than it did the first time. I even managed to get most of the sunburst out of the cavities. Unfortunately, some of the wood filler came off with the finish... so that nasty gouge on the contour is back. My next step is to refill everything (dings and mounting holes), sand it smooth, and dye it yellow. I ordered yellow dye from reranch as they claim there are no conflicts with nitro overtop the way an oil-based dye might be.
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P64 JAG.. Yellow Pt Deaux
OK... Here she is filled, sanded and cleaned with acetone:
The back came out much cleaner than the front:
Here's the ReRanch yellow dye. It's powder, and comes in a tiny 1 oz bottle. I mixed it with two qts of hot water according to the directions. Beware, it does not look yellow at all in solution:
BUT... it dries bright yellow on the wood. Of course, the dark stains and wood filler don't take the dye:
2 qts is WAY too much of this stuff. I wiped it on with a rag for the above shot and barely used any dye. Then I remembered reading that Fender dipped the bodies into a vat of yellow dye... so I had this brainstorm:
I'll flip it over in a few minutes to ensure adequate coverage. By the way... wear gloves, because otherwise you'll look like a hepatitis victim:
Next up... grain filler. It's usually not needed on alder, but this body has so many little imperfections and has been stripped AT LEAST twice. Besides, no doubt the water-based dye will raise the grain. In fact... they recommend to raise it with water (which I did) prior to applying the dye.
Now.. I'll go flip it over.
The back came out much cleaner than the front:
Here's the ReRanch yellow dye. It's powder, and comes in a tiny 1 oz bottle. I mixed it with two qts of hot water according to the directions. Beware, it does not look yellow at all in solution:
BUT... it dries bright yellow on the wood. Of course, the dark stains and wood filler don't take the dye:
2 qts is WAY too much of this stuff. I wiped it on with a rag for the above shot and barely used any dye. Then I remembered reading that Fender dipped the bodies into a vat of yellow dye... so I had this brainstorm:
I'll flip it over in a few minutes to ensure adequate coverage. By the way... wear gloves, because otherwise you'll look like a hepatitis victim:
Next up... grain filler. It's usually not needed on alder, but this body has so many little imperfections and has been stripped AT LEAST twice. Besides, no doubt the water-based dye will raise the grain. In fact... they recommend to raise it with water (which I did) prior to applying the dye.
Now.. I'll go flip it over.
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The flip side:
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!
As an added bonus... act within the next ten minutes and you get this TOTALLY C@@L HIPPIE SHIRT!
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!
As an added bonus... act within the next ten minutes and you get this TOTALLY C@@L HIPPIE SHIRT!
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Re: P64 JAG.. Yellow Pt Deaux
Wow! The grain is beautiful on the back... It would make a nice sunburst!
Good job, Doug!
Good job, Doug!
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Like bathing in the yellow river!
Nice job Doug!
I wish you better luck this time around.
Nice job Doug!
I wish you better luck this time around.
Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into?
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Re: P64 JAG.. Yellow Pt Deaux
:-\Like bathing in the yellow river!
The Yellow River
by I.P. Freeley
Yeah.. it will be more realistic this time and I'll try not my best not to make rocket science out of it (pun intended)...
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Re: P64 JAG.. Yellow Pt Deaux
Here it is drying in the Florida sun:
You can see how much yellower it gets as it dries...
What the heck is this?
It's a paintstick stuck deep inside a piece of PVC pipe. Inspired by (I think Ben), I decided to use my bicycle workstand...
... to make a paint fixture:
It's totally adjustable, up/down and rotational:
This should make it easy to cover both sides at a time. Hopefully, if the weather stays dry here, once the grain filler is on and sanded... I should be able to knock this out fairly quickly (unlike the previous finish)!
You can see how much yellower it gets as it dries...
What the heck is this?
It's a paintstick stuck deep inside a piece of PVC pipe. Inspired by (I think Ben), I decided to use my bicycle workstand...
... to make a paint fixture:
It's totally adjustable, up/down and rotational:
This should make it easy to cover both sides at a time. Hopefully, if the weather stays dry here, once the grain filler is on and sanded... I should be able to knock this out fairly quickly (unlike the previous finish)!
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Thanks! That's my baby.
I just spent a cozy 13 hours last Saturday changing the blower fan. The wizards at GM must have thought it would last forever, so they mounted it up under the passenger-side fender. I had to take the rocker chrome, wheelwell trim, outer fender, and inner fender out to get to it. The changing of the fan itself took all of ten minutes. While I was at it, I removed the hood and lined up all the front sheetmetal on reassembly.
It's an unrestored low-mileage car (54k) that had been stored for 20-some years, but not stored well. I've been detailing and restoring it a bit at a time. That's where most of my "hobby money" goes... so I have nowhere near the gear I used to. But that's OK... I can drive much better than I can play.
I just spent a cozy 13 hours last Saturday changing the blower fan. The wizards at GM must have thought it would last forever, so they mounted it up under the passenger-side fender. I had to take the rocker chrome, wheelwell trim, outer fender, and inner fender out to get to it. The changing of the fan itself took all of ten minutes. While I was at it, I removed the hood and lined up all the front sheetmetal on reassembly.
It's an unrestored low-mileage car (54k) that had been stored for 20-some years, but not stored well. I've been detailing and restoring it a bit at a time. That's where most of my "hobby money" goes... so I have nowhere near the gear I used to. But that's OK... I can drive much better than I can play.
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+1!northern_dirt wrote: Nice wheels!
Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into?
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Re: P64 JAG.. Yellow Pt Deaux
+2, and nice idea for your painting armature - crude as it was, I found it so much better using mine.