NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

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NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by larski » Wed May 08, 2024 7:21 am

1959 Jazzmaster "Chicago Special" Deluxe Closet Classic Faded Medium Palomino Metallic

https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/pr ... al-1597654

Can anyone tell me the history of this finish?

Many thanks, Larski

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Post by dinosaurkale-> » Wed May 08, 2024 9:13 am

that's kinda what everything looks like when i'm squinting my eyes when it's super sunny out

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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by Unicorn Warrior » Wed May 08, 2024 11:31 am

Gosh, what a great Jazzy! Congrats

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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by mekhem » Wed May 08, 2024 11:57 am

Very nice - I like the CME spec pickups and the 250k wiring.

(I own one currently and have owned another previously) I am just astounded that they do not get the RSD brdiges.....

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Post by CorporateDisguise » Wed May 08, 2024 4:34 pm

I’ve never heard of that finish before. Almost certain it wasn’t a custom color for vintage Fenders. I’ve not hear the name on any modern ones either, so I suspect it’s just a new color.

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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by larski » Wed May 08, 2024 6:03 pm

^ ^ ^
I did some scratchin' around on the internet and I found this:
https://www.mustangsetc.com/64-65-musta ... -palomino/
and this:
https://reverb.com/item/80477164-fender ... ocellulose
found it also on a CME Jazz Bass reissue . . .

So . . . guessing that this color might have been added to the Fender catalog in 1965.

It's a blah color IMO on the EJ strat but the CME version is "faded" and works well with the anodized PG for me.

A little off the beaten path and nuthin' wrong with that.

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Post by superficial » Wed May 08, 2024 10:06 pm

Looks awful on that strat imo but with the pick guard on that JM it’s pretty nice!

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Post by BoringPostcards » Thu May 09, 2024 5:46 am

The gold hardware ruins it for me. I only like gold hardware on blues and greens for some reason.
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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by GilmourD » Fri May 10, 2024 11:28 am

mekhem wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 11:57 am
Very nice - I like the CME spec pickups and the 250k wiring.

(I own one currently and have owned another previously) I am just astounded that they do not get the RSD brdiges.....
What's the spec on those pickups?

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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by larski » Fri May 10, 2024 3:11 pm

Per CME

Based on a set of 1961 Jazzmaster pickups, George Bland helped us craft our set to have higher output in the neck position than the bridge. The bridge pickup is slightly overwound giving it a smooth and round presence, while the neck pickup is moderately overwound giving it a huge bottom end with with round highs. Both Alnico 5 pickups are potted in shellac to give them a wide and open dynamic range, and wound with 42 gauge enamel wire. When you put everything together, you get the most balanced Jazzmaster on the market!

"Chicago Special" Jazzmaster® pickups

Custom set modeled after CME's favorite 1961 Jazzmater AlNiCo 5 magnets
42 gauge enamel wire for round highs
Potted in shellac for open wide range frequency response
BRIDGE: Slightly overwound for high end punch but still still smooth and round
NECK: Moderately overwound for huge bottom end but with clear, round highs

The guitar just arrived; it's gorgeous! Something not apparent from the photos is very subtle finish checking front and back. I asked for flatwound .11s and CME obliged with a set of Pyramids. I'll tune it up, then let the strings stretch while I go out for dinner. I love the sound of my '62 AVRI JM, be very curious if I hear any difference with the new kid. The gold hardware works supremely well with the paint and PG. Not necessarily the best choice for all body colors but a home run in this case.

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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by Unicorn Warrior » Fri May 10, 2024 7:59 pm

Awesome! I think you’re going to have fun with this one. Please post some pics of you can

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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by Larsongs » Fri May 10, 2024 8:55 pm

larski wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 3:11 pm
Per CME

Based on a set of 1961 Jazzmaster pickups, George Bland helped us craft our set to have higher output in the neck position than the bridge. The bridge pickup is slightly overwound giving it a smooth and round presence, while the neck pickup is moderately overwound giving it a huge bottom end with with round highs. Both Alnico 5 pickups are potted in shellac to give them a wide and open dynamic range, and wound with 42 gauge enamel wire. When you put everything together, you get the most balanced Jazzmaster on the market!

"Chicago Special" Jazzmaster® pickups

Custom set modeled after CME's favorite 1961 Jazzmater AlNiCo 5 magnets
42 gauge enamel wire for round highs
Potted in shellac for open wide range frequency response
BRIDGE: Slightly overwound for high end punch but still still smooth and round
NECK: Moderately overwound for huge bottom end but with clear, round highs

The guitar just arrived; it's gorgeous! Something not apparent from the photos is very subtle finish checking front and back. I asked for flatwound .11s and CME obliged with a set of Pyramids. I'll tune it up, then let the strings stretch while I go out for dinner. I love the sound of my '62 AVRI JM, be very curious if I hear any difference with the new kid. The gold hardware works supremely well with the paint and PG. Not necessarily the best choice for all body colors but a home run in this case.
I’m not aware of that being an Original Finish but it’s stunning.. The Original White Nitro finishes on Vintage 60’s JM’s turned a beautiful yellowish tint over time & looked amazing..

I would love to hear those Pickups.. I could be persuaded to upgrade my AV65….

I know you’ll enjoy that Guitar!

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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by Marc » Fri May 10, 2024 10:51 pm

It’s lovely! Congrats. To me that looks the same as Firemist Gold so perhaps the original car colour name was Palamino and also known as Firemist Gold.

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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by mekhem » Sun May 12, 2024 7:15 pm

Pretty sure that this color is a CME and FCS creation. They are starting to do that - Trash can Sparkle, sonic Blue sparkle, faded baltic blue, lavender etc..


Based on the pictures (which are sometimes pretty washed out) I would guess it is darker and browner than a firemist and will look really nice in person.

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Re: NGD Chicago Music Exchange JM

Post by RockStarNick » Mon May 13, 2024 4:25 am

That's a great color, never seen that before. As Marc said, looks very much like firemist, but maybe has a bit more brown in it? Either way - awesome.

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