NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

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NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by mikeehairdo » Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:28 am

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Recently swapped my old Silvertone 1484 for a (new to me) Jag HH.

This is the third one I've had over the last ~10 years, and it seems like I get a shorter turnaround every time before deciding to move it along; hopefully this won't be the case this time round. The fit and finish is the typically excellent quality Fender Japan is known for. The electronics need some love, as there's a fairly mean ground hum coming from somewhere, the switches are weirdly sticky, and the pots cut in and out if you touch them (hence the Grolsch grommets). I think so far my biggest sticking point is the radius mismatch between the bridge and the fretboard. I know there's a lot of contention over this, and for years I largely fell under the school of thought that it didn't matter. In my old age, however, I find that it's tripping me up more than I would've expected. It feels like my fingers are getting caught underneath the higher strings in a really weird and uncomfortable way. Who knows, maybe I'm just being a sook.

One thing that struck me this time however was the Dragster pickups. These things fucking rule. I don't know what I was thinking changing them out in years past. They're exactly what I want in a humbucker. They're open and responsive to picking dynamics. They're low-output enough to not overdrive my amp and play wonderfully with all my stupid reverbs and delays. These are really excellent pickups, and I have every intention of tracking down another set to slam in my Jazzmaster.

I've never been one for bling, but I always loved the look of the black and chrome outfit on these. I'm hoping I'll be able to find a workaround for the bridge situation, fix up the electronics as needed, and really bond with this guitar.

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by LVC » Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:19 am

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I'm hoping I'll be able to find a workaround for the bridge situation
You can carefully deepen the string grooves in the Adjust-o-Matic saddles with a triangular file to match the fretboard radius.
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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by mikeehairdo » Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:47 am

LVC wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:19 am
mikeehairdo wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:28 am
I'm hoping I'll be able to find a workaround for the bridge situation
You can carefully deepen the string grooves in the Adjust-o-Matic saddles with a triangular file to match the fretboard radius.
This method is what I'm *hoping* to avoid, but I do realize that I may just have to bite the bullet and start filing. It's baffling that no one's put out a 9.5" or even close-to 9.5" ToM bridge.

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by LVC » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:15 am

Honestly it's not as tricky as it sounds. The difference in string groove depth on the outer saddles between 12" and 9.5" is only a fraction of a millimeter. Go slowly and check frequently with a radius gauge.

Do it on a replacement AOM/TOM, they're cheap enough... so if you screw up you still have the original.
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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by mikeehairdo » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:29 am

Yeah I think that's what I'll likely end up having to do, unfortunately. I may even try and grab some graph tech saddles; I rad somewhere they're supposed to be easy to work with for this sort of thing.

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by JSett » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:32 am

I had one of these back in the day for a while. It was a decent guitar and solidly built. I was, like many, not a fan of the humbuckers so I put regular Jag pickups in and rocked it like that for however long. Plenty of people love them though so, ears be judge.

If one came up at the right price, and locally, I'd almost certainly grab it. They're decent. Congrats.
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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by mikeehairdo » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:50 am

JSett wrote:
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I had one of these back in the day for a while. It was a decent guitar and solidly built. I was, like many, not a fan of the humbuckers so I put regular Jag pickups in and rocked it like that for however long. Plenty of people love them though so, ears be judge.

If one came up at the right price, and locally, I'd almost certainly grab it. They're decent. Congrats.
Thanks pal, I'm looking forward to getting it dressed up properly and hopefully bond with it. Neat idea throwing single coils in there too. Maybe I'll try that down the road for shits and laughs just to see how it is.

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by MayTheFuzzBeWithYou » Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:48 pm

There are those Mosrite style roller bridges - some of those are designed as drop in tune-o-matic replacements - and they are available in all kind of radii - 9“, 9,5“ and 10“ among them (or probably an imprecise measurement sold as three different ones… who knows)
Not that you would urgently need a roller bridge on a stop tail design… but it‘s good to have that option.
Some are also rocking those on Jags and JMs with vibrato.
I don‘t know… for some reason I always thought those bridges looked incomparably cool.

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by andy_tchp » Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:43 pm

mikeehairdo wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:47 am
LVC wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:19 am
mikeehairdo wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:28 am
I'm hoping I'll be able to find a workaround for the bridge situation
You can carefully deepen the string grooves in the Adjust-o-Matic saddles with a triangular file to match the fretboard radius.
This method is what I'm *hoping* to avoid
Why? Takes about 5 minutes.

Graphtech saddles sound like dull shit in most instances IME.
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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by alexpigment » Wed Apr 09, 2025 6:24 pm

Am I wrong in thinking that these actually come with a 7.25" radius, like most Japanese Jaguars of the era? For what it's worth, when Googling for the answer, I see an equal amount of websites saying 7.25" and 9.5".

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by mikeehairdo » Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:51 am

MayTheFuzzBeWithYou wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:48 pm
There are those Mosrite style roller bridges - some of those are designed as drop in tune-o-matic replacements - and they are available in all kind of radii - 9“, 9,5“ and 10“ among them (or probably an imprecise measurement sold as three different ones… who knows)
Not that you would urgently need a roller bridge on a stop tail design… but it‘s good to have that option.
Some are also rocking those on Jags and JMs with vibrato.
I don‘t know… for some reason I always thought those bridges looked incomparably cool.
Completely forgot about those! You've given me something to waste away my work day with researching, thank you.

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by mikeehairdo » Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:55 am

alexpigment wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 6:24 pm
Am I wrong in thinking that these actually come with a 7.25" radius, like most Japanese Jaguars of the era? For what it's worth, when Googling for the answer, I see an equal amount of websites saying 7.25" and 9.5".
I've also seen this contradictory info. I think I've seen 9.5" a bit more often than 7.25" so for the sake of conversation I'm going with 9.5" until I get some radius gauges in the mail.

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by mikeehairdo » Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:59 am

andy_tchp wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:43 pm
mikeehairdo wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:47 am
LVC wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:19 am


You can carefully deepen the string grooves in the Adjust-o-Matic saddles with a triangular file to match the fretboard radius.
This method is what I'm *hoping* to avoid
Why? Takes about 5 minutes.

Graphtech saddles sound like dull shit in most instances IME.
Mostly lack of confidence in what I'm doing. I know, nothing ventured, nothing gained, but I want to avoid fucking up a perfectly good bridge if possible. I'll likely end up getting a cheaper ToM/AoM and practicing once I get some radius gauges, but for the time being I'm going to really explore the possibility of a Mosrite-style bridge like another poster mentioned.

I've never played with graphtech stuff before, but I guess that's definitely worth a second thought if it's actually that bad.

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by MayTheFuzzBeWithYou » Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:42 am

mikeehairdo wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:51 am
Completely forgot about those! You've given me something to waste away my work day with researching, thank you.
You‘re welcome! :)

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Re: NGD - CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH

Post by mikeehairdo » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:57 am

Stupid guy update:

After touching up the electronics and putting new strings on the Jag, it's really in fighting shape now. I put some EB 11-54s on it, replacing the 10-52s and it really compensates for the radius mismatch, making it much, much less noticeable. I'm now thinking that my main hang up was the weird heavy/light string combination that was seemingly accentuating the radius thing. As of right now, the bridge upgrade has fall down the priority list.

Now it's just getting used to the short scale neck all over again.

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