'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
has anyone mentioned the Cyclone II yet?
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
lets try this again...FascinationStreet wrote: Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
- Marauder
- Starcaster (vintage)
- Jazz Bass
- Bass VI
- Bass V
- Performer
- Swinger
- Electric Mandolin
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Bronco Bass
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Modern offset
- Jag-Stang
- Toronado
- Cyclone
- Jaguar Baritone
- Jaguar Bass
- JZM Deluxe
Squier
- Jagmaster
- Super-Sonic
Non-Fender
- Alamo Fiesta
- Alden Jazzcaster
- Aria Diamond 1532T
- Aria Diamond 1802T (2 pups version) + 1803T (3 pups version)
- Aria Diamond Bass
- Burns Marvin/Apache
- Chandler Austin Special
- Chandler Avenger
- Chandler Futurama
- Chandler Taboo
- Charvel Surfcaster
- Columbia CSG-631
-Danelectro '67 Hornet
- Dillion DJM-61
- Domino Spartan
- Egmond Typhoon
- Elk Deluxe
- Eko Camaro
- Eko Cobra
- Epiphone BaxterMaster
- Epiphone ET-270
- Epiphone ET-270 Bass
- Fernandes JG series
- Framus Atlantik
- Framus Atlantik Bass
- Framus Atlantik TV
- Framus Junior 4 Bass
- Framus Junior 6
- Framus Golden Television
- Framus Golden Television Star Bass
- Framus Strato 6
- Framus Strato Deluxe
- Framus Television
- Futurama Corvette Automatic
- Giannini Gemini
- Giannini Super Sonic
- Gibson Explorer
- Gibson Firebird (I, III & V, VII)
- Gibson Firebird Non-reverse
- Gibson Thunderbird
- Gibson Modern
- Gibson Style O
- Gibson F style mandolins
- Gibson RD Artist
- Goya Panther
- Grosh ElectraJet
- Guyatone EB-4
- Guyatone LG-120T
- Guyatone LG-130T
- Guyatone LG-170T
- Guyatone LG-200T
- Guyatone LG-220T
- Hagström Coronado / Coronado VI
- Hagström Corvette / Condor
- Hang-Don (Vietnamese - model information needed)
- Hohner JT60
- Hopf Saturn 63
- Hopf Telstar
- Höfner 164V (III)
- Höfner 177a
- Höfner Galaxie
- Hutchins Beachcomber
- Hutchins Fury
- Hutchins Saffron
- Ibanez 1960s offsets (3 and 4 pu models, info needed)
- Ibanez Jazzmaster copy (lawsuit era)
- Ibanez JetKing
- Ibanez ORM1
- Ibanez Talman
- Isana
- Jackson Outcaster
- Kalamazoo KB-1
- Kalamazoo KG-1
- Kalamazoo KG-2
- Kimaxe thinline
- Klira Star Club
- Liberty MS-150
- Malden Liquid
- Malden Mozak
- Malden Utopia
- Martin E-18
- Martin EB-18
- Martin EM-18
- Martin E-28
- Martin EB-28
- Mory Jazzmaster copy (Japanese - info needed)
- Mosrite The Ventures Models Mark I & II
- Murph
- Music Man Stingray I and II
- Musima Deluxe
- Norma (Japanese - info needed)
- Parker Fly
- Pleasant SEV-218
- Pleasant S-12S-248
- Reverend Buckshot
- Reverend Charger
- Reverend Club King
- Reverend Double Agent
- Reverend Flatroc
- Reverend Gil Parris Signature
- Reverend Jetstream
- Reverend Warhawk[/b]
- Silvertone amp-in-case models 1 and 2 pickups - both the solid body and semi-hollow versions (different style!)
- Stagg's M Series
- Teisco EP-200
- Teisco Fire Bird
- Teisco NB-4
- Teisco TB-64
- Teisco TG-64
- Univox Hi-Flier
- Univox Hi-Flier Bass
- Univox UC-2
- Voice Delicate
- Voice Frontier
- Voice Hard
- Voice Rich Man 12
- Vox Hurricane
- Vox Spitfire
- Vox Super Ace
- Welson Jazz Vedette
- Wilson Bros VM-100
- Zen-on EB-15
- Zen-on ZES-60
- Zen-on ZES-80T
- Zen-on ZES-1400D
- Zen-on ZES-170
- Zen-on ZES-220
hope this works
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
maybe i got a little over the top with that last post but i guess you understand what i'm getting at 
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
What about the Harmony Silhouette guitars from back in the '60s?
Or the Harmony Bobkat?
Or the Harmony Bobkat?
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JGZinv
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
Does mine count?
Orpheus (Spin off brand from Conrad which were imported by David Wexler and Co. in Chicago, built in Japan similar to Teisco.
There's also a 4 or 6 string bass, and a 335 copy with the Orpheus badge as well.)
Orpheus (Spin off brand from Conrad which were imported by David Wexler and Co. in Chicago, built in Japan similar to Teisco.
There's also a 4 or 6 string bass, and a 335 copy with the Orpheus badge as well.)
FascinationStreet wrote: Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
- Marauder
- Starcaster (vintage)
- Jazz Bass
- Bass VI
- Bass V
- Performer
- Swinger
- Electric Mandolin
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Bronco Bass
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Modern offset
- Jag-Stang
- Toronado
- Cyclone
- Jaguar Baritone
- Jaguar Bass
- JZM Deluxe
Squier
- Jagmaster
- Super-Sonic
Non-Fender
- Alamo Fiesta
- Alden Jazzcaster
- Aria Diamond 1532T
- Aria Diamond 1802T (2 pups version) + 1803T (3 pups version)
- Aria Diamond Bass
- Burns Marvin/Apache
- Chandler Austin Special
- Chandler Avenger
- Chandler Futurama
- Chandler Taboo
- Charvel Surfcaster
- Columbia CSG-631
- Danelectro '67 Hornet
- Dillion DJM-61
- Domino Spartan
- Egmond Typhoon
- Elk Deluxe
- Eko Camaro
- Eko Cobra
- Epiphone BaxterMaster
- Epiphone ET-270
- Epiphone ET-270 Bass
- Fernandes JG series
- Framus Atlantik
- Framus Atlantik Bass
- Framus Atlantik TV
- Framus Junior 4 Bass
- Framus Junior 6
- Framus Golden Television
- Framus Golden Television Star Bass
- Framus Strato 6
- Framus Strato Deluxe
- Framus Television
- Futurama Corvette Automatic
- Giannini Gemini
- Giannini Super Sonic
- Gibson Explorer
- Gibson Firebird (I, III & V, VII)
- Gibson Firebird Non-reverse
- Gibson Thunderbird
- Gibson Modern
- Gibson Style O
- Gibson F style mandolins
- Gibson RD Artist
- Goya Panther
- Grosh ElectraJet
- Guyatone EB-4
- Guyatone LG-120T
- Guyatone LG-130T
- Guyatone LG-170T
- Guyatone LG-200T
- Guyatone LG-220T
- Hagström Coronado / Coronado VI
- Hagström Corvette / Condor
- Hang-Don (Vietnamese - model information needed)
- Hohner JT60
- Hopf Saturn 63
- Hopf Telstar
- Höfner 164V (III)
- Höfner 177a
- Höfner Galaxie
- Hutchins Beachcomber
- Hutchins Fury
- Hutchins Saffron
- Ibanez 1960s offsets (3 and 4 pu models, info needed)
- Ibanez Jazzmaster copy (lawsuit era)
- Ibanez JetKing
- Ibanez ORM1
- Ibanez Talman
- Isana
- Jackson Outcaster
- Kalamazoo KB-1
- Kalamazoo KG-1
- Kalamazoo KG-2
- Kimaxe thinline
- Klira Star Club
- Liberty MS-150
- Malden Liquid
- Malden Mozak
- Malden Utopia
- Martin E-18
- Martin EB-18
- Martin EM-18
- Martin E-28
- Martin EB-28
- Mory Jazzmaster copy (Japanese - info needed)
- Mosrite The Ventures Models Mark I & II
- Murph
- Music Man Stingray I and II
- Musima Deluxe
- Norma (Japanese - info needed)
- Orpheus (Japanese - info needed)
- Parker Fly
- Pleasant SEV-218
- Pleasant S-12S-248
- Reverend Buckshot
- Reverend Charger
- Reverend Club King
- Reverend Double Agent
- Reverend Flatroc
- Reverend Gil Parris Signature
- Reverend Jetstream
- Reverend Warhawk[/b]
- Silvertone amp-in-case models 1 and 2 pickups - both the solid body and semi-hollow versions (different style!)
- Stagg's M Series
- Teisco EP-200
- Teisco Fire Bird
- Teisco NB-4
- Teisco TB-64
- Teisco TG-64
- Univox Hi-Flier
- Univox Hi-Flier Bass
- Univox UC-2
- Voice Delicate
- Voice Frontier
- Voice Hard
- Voice Rich Man 12
- Vox Hurricane
- Vox Spitfire
- Vox Super Ace
- Welson Jazz Vedette
- Wilson Bros VM-100
- Zen-on EB-15
- Zen-on ZES-60
- Zen-on ZES-80T
- Zen-on ZES-1400D
- Zen-on ZES-170
- Zen-on ZES-220
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jop
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
Right. I see a LOT of non-offsets in the previous posts, so I don't think it's a bad idea to post this. Similar things have undoubtly been posted, but whatever. 
What makes a guitar qualify as 'offset'?
Offset means that the waist of the guitar is, well, offset. You can see this clearly in illustration 1. If you draw one line from the bottom of the waist straight up and another one from the top of the waist to the center of the bottom of the waist and see that the lines aren't parallel, it's offset. I believe the minimum angle of the waist has to be 10% (or something) to be offset. Ben (workoffire) has an excellent image of that, but I can't find it. That makes Strats to be non-offset.
On a Tele, for example, the waist is straight, you can see that in the lines getting 'on top' of eachother (illustration 2)
A firebird is a reverse-offset. The lines arent on top of eachother, but the angled line is to the left of the straight line. (I don't know how to put this better). See illustration 3.
A guitar is not offset just because you can draw a line through it (illustration 4). On an offset, there always are two lines that can be drawn and they're not on top of eachother. See illustration 4.
Pets are generally non-offset even though you can draw lines through them, as shown on Ferbis the Offset Dog(RIP) in illustration 5.
So, class, any questions?
What makes a guitar qualify as 'offset'?
Offset means that the waist of the guitar is, well, offset. You can see this clearly in illustration 1. If you draw one line from the bottom of the waist straight up and another one from the top of the waist to the center of the bottom of the waist and see that the lines aren't parallel, it's offset. I believe the minimum angle of the waist has to be 10% (or something) to be offset. Ben (workoffire) has an excellent image of that, but I can't find it. That makes Strats to be non-offset.
On a Tele, for example, the waist is straight, you can see that in the lines getting 'on top' of eachother (illustration 2)
A firebird is a reverse-offset. The lines arent on top of eachother, but the angled line is to the left of the straight line. (I don't know how to put this better). See illustration 3.
A guitar is not offset just because you can draw a line through it (illustration 4). On an offset, there always are two lines that can be drawn and they're not on top of eachother. See illustration 4.
Pets are generally non-offset even though you can draw lines through them, as shown on Ferbis the Offset Dog(RIP) in illustration 5.
So, class, any questions?
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
strat mustang jm
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jop
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
That's the one! Thanks!
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JGZinv
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
Well it's very helpful, but the orpheus still qualifies as an offset then.
It just isn't very pronounced, particularly in the photos.
It just isn't very pronounced, particularly in the photos.
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jop
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
I wasn't referring to your post, more to the previous page. There are entire lists of guitars that simply are non-offset.JGZinv wrote: Well it's very helpful, but the orpheus still qualifies as an offset then.
It just isn't very pronounced, particularly in the photos.
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
just saw this tokai jaguar copy on the national equivalent to ebay (they've actually just been bought by ebay, so i guess it is ebay, hehe). didn't know they made copies too.. looks pretty good.
FascinationStreet wrote: Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
- Marauder
- Starcaster (vintage)
- Jazz Bass
- Bass VI
- Bass V
- Performer
- Swinger
- Electric Mandolin
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Bronco Bass
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Modern offset
- Jag-Stang
- Toronado
- Cyclone
- Jaguar Baritone
- Jaguar Bass
- JZM Deluxe
Squier
- Jagmaster
- Super-Sonic
Non-Fender
- Alamo Fiesta
- Alden Jazzcaster
- Aria Diamond 1532T
- Aria Diamond 1802T (2 pups version) + 1803T (3 pups version)
- Aria Diamond Bass
- Burns Marvin/Apache
- Chandler Austin Special
- Chandler Avenger
- Chandler Futurama
- Chandler Taboo
- Charvel Surfcaster
- Columbia CSG-631
- Danelectro '67 Hornet
- Dillion DJM-61
- Domino Spartan
- Egmond Typhoon
- Elk Deluxe
- Eko Camaro
- Eko Cobra
- Epiphone BaxterMaster
- Epiphone ET-270
- Epiphone ET-270 Bass
- Fernandes JG series
- Framus Atlantik
- Framus Atlantik Bass
- Framus Atlantik TV
- Framus Junior 4 Bass
- Framus Junior 6
- Framus Golden Television
- Framus Golden Television Star Bass
- Framus Strato 6
- Framus Strato Deluxe
- Framus Television
- Futurama Corvette Automatic
- Giannini Gemini
- Giannini Super Sonic
- Gibson Explorer
- Gibson Firebird (I, III & V, VII)
- Gibson Firebird Non-reverse
- Gibson Thunderbird
- Gibson Modern
- Gibson Style O
- Gibson F style mandolins
- Gibson RD Artist
- Goya Panther
- Grosh ElectraJet
- Guyatone EB-4
- Guyatone LG-120T
- Guyatone LG-130T
- Guyatone LG-170T
- Guyatone LG-200T
- Guyatone LG-220T
- Hagström Coronado / Coronado VI
- Hagström Corvette / Condor
- Hang-Don (Vietnamese - model information needed)
- Hohner JT60
- Hopf Saturn 63
- Hopf Telstar
- Höfner 164V (III)
- Höfner 177a
- Höfner Galaxie
- Hutchins Beachcomber
- Hutchins Fury
- Hutchins Saffron
- Ibanez 1960s offsets (3 and 4 pu models, info needed)
- Ibanez Jazzmaster copy (lawsuit era)
- Ibanez JetKing
- Ibanez ORM1
- Ibanez Talman
- Isana
- Jackson Outcaster
- Kalamazoo KB-1
- Kalamazoo KG-1
- Kalamazoo KG-2
- Kimaxe thinline
- Klira Star Club
- Liberty MS-150
- Malden Liquid
- Malden Mozak
- Malden Utopia
- Martin E-18
- Martin EB-18
- Martin EM-18
- Martin E-28
- Martin EB-28
- Mory Jazzmaster copy (Japanese - info needed)
- Mosrite The Ventures Models Mark I & II
- Murph
- Music Man Stingray I and II
- Musima Deluxe
- Norma (Japanese - info needed)
- Orpheus (Japanese - info needed)
- Parker Fly
- Pleasant SEV-218
- Pleasant S-12S-248
- Reverend Buckshot
- Reverend Charger
- Reverend Club King
- Reverend Double Agent
- Reverend Flatroc
- Reverend Gil Parris Signature
- Reverend Jetstream
- Reverend Warhawk[/b]
- Silvertone amp-in-case models 1 and 2 pickups - both the solid body and semi-hollow versions (different style!)
- Stagg's M Series
- Teisco EP-200
- Teisco Fire Bird
- Teisco NB-4
- Teisco TB-64
- Teisco TG-64
- Tokai Jaguar copy (japanese - info needed)
- Univox Hi-Flier
- Univox Hi-Flier Bass
- Univox UC-2
- Voice Delicate
- Voice Frontier
- Voice Hard
- Voice Rich Man 12
- Vox Hurricane
- Vox Spitfire
- Vox Super Ace
- Welson Jazz Vedette
- Wilson Bros VM-100
- Zen-on EB-15
- Zen-on ZES-60
- Zen-on ZES-80T
- Zen-on ZES-1400D
- Zen-on ZES-170
- Zen-on ZES-220
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Poop
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
Wow. 
I really like that Tokai. Never knew that they did a (kind of) Jag copy.
Thanks to j-op and theworkoffire, also. When I talk about offsets with people they generally seem to consider an offset to be any guitar with a fat, odd-shaped ass. I guess that I'm not good at explaining things. Maybe I'll print out their posts and keep them in my wallet to use as visual aids for offset-impaired individuals.
I really like that Tokai. Never knew that they did a (kind of) Jag copy.
Thanks to j-op and theworkoffire, also. When I talk about offsets with people they generally seem to consider an offset to be any guitar with a fat, odd-shaped ass. I guess that I'm not good at explaining things. Maybe I'll print out their posts and keep them in my wallet to use as visual aids for offset-impaired individuals.
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
I added the Schecter Hellcat. A few people mentioned it but it was never put on the list.
Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
- Marauder
- Starcaster (vintage)
- Jazz Bass
- Bass VI
- Bass V
- Performer
- Swinger
- Electric Mandolin
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Bronco Bass
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Modern offset
- Jag-Stang
- Toronado
- Cyclone
- Jaguar Baritone
- Jaguar Bass
- JZM Deluxe
Squier
- Jagmaster
- Super-Sonic
Non-Fender
- Alamo Fiesta
- Alden Jazzcaster
- Aria Diamond 1532T
- Aria Diamond 1802T (2 pups version) + 1803T (3 pups version)
- Aria Diamond Bass
- Burns Marvin/Apache
- Chandler Austin Special
- Chandler Avenger
- Chandler Futurama
- Chandler Taboo
- Charvel Surfcaster
- Columbia CSG-631
- Danelectro '67 Hornet
- Dillion DJM-61
- Domino Spartan
- Egmond Typhoon
- Elk Deluxe
- Eko Camaro
- Eko Cobra
- Epiphone BaxterMaster
- Epiphone ET-270
- Epiphone ET-270 Bass
- Fernandes JG series
- Framus Atlantik
- Framus Atlantik Bass
- Framus Atlantik TV
- Framus Junior 4 Bass
- Framus Junior 6
- Framus Golden Television
- Framus Golden Television Star Bass
- Framus Strato 6
- Framus Strato Deluxe
- Framus Television
- Futurama Corvette Automatic
- Giannini Gemini
- Giannini Super Sonic
- Gibson Explorer
- Gibson Firebird (I, III & V, VII)
- Gibson Firebird Non-reverse
- Gibson Thunderbird
- Gibson Modern
- Gibson Style O
- Gibson F style mandolins
- Gibson RD Artist
- Goya Panther
- Grosh ElectraJet
- Guyatone EB-4
- Guyatone LG-120T
- Guyatone LG-130T
- Guyatone LG-170T
- Guyatone LG-200T
- Guyatone LG-220T
- Hagström Coronado / Coronado VI
- Hagström Corvette / Condor
- Hang-Don (Vietnamese - model information needed)
- Hohner JT60
- Hopf Saturn 63
- Hopf Telstar
- Höfner 164V (III)
- Höfner 177a
- Höfner Galaxie
- Hutchins Beachcomber
- Hutchins Fury
- Hutchins Saffron
- Ibanez 1960s offsets (3 and 4 pu models, info needed)
- Ibanez Jazzmaster copy (lawsuit era)
- Ibanez JetKing
- Ibanez ORM1
- Ibanez Talman
- Isana
- Jackson Outcaster
- Kalamazoo KB-1
- Kalamazoo KG-1
- Kalamazoo KG-2
- Kimaxe thinline
- Klira Star Club
- Liberty MS-150
- Malden Liquid
- Malden Mozak
- Malden Utopia
- Martin E-18
- Martin EB-18
- Martin EM-18
- Martin E-28
- Martin EB-28
- Mory Jazzmaster copy (Japanese - info needed)
- Mosrite The Ventures Models Mark I & II
- Murph
- Music Man Stingray I and II
- Musima Deluxe
- Norma (Japanese - info needed)
- Orpheus (Japanese - info needed)
- Parker Fly
- Pleasant SEV-218
- Pleasant S-12S-248
- Reverend Buckshot
- Reverend Charger
- Reverend Club King
- Reverend Double Agent
- Reverend Flatroc
- Reverend Gil Parris Signature
- Reverend Jetstream
- Reverend Warhawk[/b]
- Schecter Hellcat
- Silvertone amp-in-case models 1 and 2 pickups - both the solid body and semi-hollow versions (different style!)
- Stagg's M Series
- Teisco EP-200
- Teisco Fire Bird
- Teisco NB-4
- Teisco TB-64
- Teisco TG-64
- Tokai Jaguar copy (japanese - info needed)
- Univox Hi-Flier
- Univox Hi-Flier Bass
- Univox UC-2
- Voice Delicate
- Voice Frontier
- Voice Hard
- Voice Rich Man 12
- Vox Hurricane
- Vox Spitfire
- Vox Super Ace
- Welson Jazz Vedette
- Wilson Bros VM-100
- Zen-on EB-15
- Zen-on ZES-60
- Zen-on ZES-80T
- Zen-on ZES-1400D
- Zen-on ZES-170
- Zen-on ZES-220
Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
- Marauder
- Starcaster (vintage)
- Jazz Bass
- Bass VI
- Bass V
- Performer
- Swinger
- Electric Mandolin
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Bronco Bass
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Modern offset
- Jag-Stang
- Toronado
- Cyclone
- Jaguar Baritone
- Jaguar Bass
- JZM Deluxe
Squier
- Jagmaster
- Super-Sonic
Non-Fender
- Alamo Fiesta
- Alden Jazzcaster
- Aria Diamond 1532T
- Aria Diamond 1802T (2 pups version) + 1803T (3 pups version)
- Aria Diamond Bass
- Burns Marvin/Apache
- Chandler Austin Special
- Chandler Avenger
- Chandler Futurama
- Chandler Taboo
- Charvel Surfcaster
- Columbia CSG-631
- Danelectro '67 Hornet
- Dillion DJM-61
- Domino Spartan
- Egmond Typhoon
- Elk Deluxe
- Eko Camaro
- Eko Cobra
- Epiphone BaxterMaster
- Epiphone ET-270
- Epiphone ET-270 Bass
- Fernandes JG series
- Framus Atlantik
- Framus Atlantik Bass
- Framus Atlantik TV
- Framus Junior 4 Bass
- Framus Junior 6
- Framus Golden Television
- Framus Golden Television Star Bass
- Framus Strato 6
- Framus Strato Deluxe
- Framus Television
- Futurama Corvette Automatic
- Giannini Gemini
- Giannini Super Sonic
- Gibson Explorer
- Gibson Firebird (I, III & V, VII)
- Gibson Firebird Non-reverse
- Gibson Thunderbird
- Gibson Modern
- Gibson Style O
- Gibson F style mandolins
- Gibson RD Artist
- Goya Panther
- Grosh ElectraJet
- Guyatone EB-4
- Guyatone LG-120T
- Guyatone LG-130T
- Guyatone LG-170T
- Guyatone LG-200T
- Guyatone LG-220T
- Hagström Coronado / Coronado VI
- Hagström Corvette / Condor
- Hang-Don (Vietnamese - model information needed)
- Hohner JT60
- Hopf Saturn 63
- Hopf Telstar
- Höfner 164V (III)
- Höfner 177a
- Höfner Galaxie
- Hutchins Beachcomber
- Hutchins Fury
- Hutchins Saffron
- Ibanez 1960s offsets (3 and 4 pu models, info needed)
- Ibanez Jazzmaster copy (lawsuit era)
- Ibanez JetKing
- Ibanez ORM1
- Ibanez Talman
- Isana
- Jackson Outcaster
- Kalamazoo KB-1
- Kalamazoo KG-1
- Kalamazoo KG-2
- Kimaxe thinline
- Klira Star Club
- Liberty MS-150
- Malden Liquid
- Malden Mozak
- Malden Utopia
- Martin E-18
- Martin EB-18
- Martin EM-18
- Martin E-28
- Martin EB-28
- Mory Jazzmaster copy (Japanese - info needed)
- Mosrite The Ventures Models Mark I & II
- Murph
- Music Man Stingray I and II
- Musima Deluxe
- Norma (Japanese - info needed)
- Orpheus (Japanese - info needed)
- Parker Fly
- Pleasant SEV-218
- Pleasant S-12S-248
- Reverend Buckshot
- Reverend Charger
- Reverend Club King
- Reverend Double Agent
- Reverend Flatroc
- Reverend Gil Parris Signature
- Reverend Jetstream
- Reverend Warhawk[/b]
- Schecter Hellcat
- Silvertone amp-in-case models 1 and 2 pickups - both the solid body and semi-hollow versions (different style!)
- Stagg's M Series
- Teisco EP-200
- Teisco Fire Bird
- Teisco NB-4
- Teisco TB-64
- Teisco TG-64
- Tokai Jaguar copy (japanese - info needed)
- Univox Hi-Flier
- Univox Hi-Flier Bass
- Univox UC-2
- Voice Delicate
- Voice Frontier
- Voice Hard
- Voice Rich Man 12
- Vox Hurricane
- Vox Spitfire
- Vox Super Ace
- Welson Jazz Vedette
- Wilson Bros VM-100
- Zen-on EB-15
- Zen-on ZES-60
- Zen-on ZES-80T
- Zen-on ZES-1400D
- Zen-on ZES-170
- Zen-on ZES-220
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
As an answer to j-op and theworkoffires posts above I hereby remove all these Gibson guitars from the list:
Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
- Marauder
- Starcaster (vintage)
- Jazz Bass
- Bass VI
- Bass V
- Performer
- Swinger
- Electric Mandolin
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Bronco Bass
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Modern offset
- Jag-Stang
- Toronado
- Cyclone
- Jaguar Baritone
- Jaguar Bass
- JZM Deluxe
Squier
- Jagmaster
- Super-Sonic
Non-Fender
- Alamo Fiesta
- Alden Jazzcaster
- Aria Diamond 1532T
- Aria Diamond 1802T (2 pups version) + 1803T (3 pups version)
- Aria Diamond Bass
- Burns Marvin/Apache
- Chandler Austin Special
- Chandler Avenger
- Chandler Futurama
- Chandler Taboo
- Charvel Surfcaster
- Columbia CSG-631
- Danelectro '67 Hornet
- Dillion DJM-61
- Domino Spartan
- Egmond Typhoon
- Elk Deluxe
- Eko Camaro
- Eko Cobra
- Epiphone BaxterMaster
- Epiphone ET-270
- Epiphone ET-270 Bass
- Fernandes JG series
- Framus Atlantik
- Framus Atlantik Bass
- Framus Atlantik TV
- Framus Junior 4 Bass
- Framus Junior 6
- Framus Golden Television
- Framus Golden Television Star Bass
- Framus Strato 6
- Framus Strato Deluxe
- Framus Television
- Futurama Corvette Automatic
- Giannini Gemini
- Giannini Super Sonic
- Gibson Explorer
- Gibson Firebird (I, III & V, VII)
- Gibson Firebird Non-reverse
- Gibson Thunderbird
- Gibson Modern
- Gibson Style O
- Gibson F style mandolins
- Gibson RD Artist
- Goya Panther
- Grosh ElectraJet
- Guyatone EB-4
- Guyatone LG-120T
- Guyatone LG-130T
- Guyatone LG-170T
- Guyatone LG-200T
- Guyatone LG-220T
- Hagström Coronado / Coronado VI
- Hagström Corvette / Condor
- Hang-Don (Vietnamese - model information needed)
- Hohner JT60
- Hopf Saturn 63
- Hopf Telstar
- Höfner 164V (III)
- Höfner 177a
- Höfner Galaxie
- Hutchins Beachcomber
- Hutchins Fury
- Hutchins Saffron
- Ibanez 1960s offsets (3 and 4 pu models, info needed)
- Ibanez Jazzmaster copy (lawsuit era)
- Ibanez JetKing
- Ibanez ORM1
- Ibanez Talman
- Isana
- Jackson Outcaster
- Kalamazoo KB-1
- Kalamazoo KG-1
- Kalamazoo KG-2
- Kimaxe thinline
- Klira Star Club
- Liberty MS-150
- Malden Liquid
- Malden Mozak
- Malden Utopia
- Martin E-18
- Martin EB-18
- Martin EM-18
- Martin E-28
- Martin EB-28
- Mory Jazzmaster copy (Japanese - info needed)
- Mosrite The Ventures Models Mark I & II
- Murph
- Music Man Stingray I and II
- Musima Deluxe
- Norma (Japanese - info needed)
- Orpheus (Japanese - info needed)
- Parker Fly
- Pleasant SEV-218
- Pleasant S-12S-248
- Reverend Buckshot
- Reverend Charger
- Reverend Club King
- Reverend Double Agent
- Reverend Flatroc
- Reverend Gil Parris Signature
- Reverend Jetstream
- Reverend Warhawk[/b]
- Schecter Hellcat
- Silvertone amp-in-case models 1 and 2 pickups - both the solid body and semi-hollow versions (different style!)
- Stagg's M Series
- Teisco EP-200
- Teisco Fire Bird
- Teisco NB-4
- Teisco TB-64
- Teisco TG-64
- Tokai Jaguar copy (japanese - info needed)
- Univox Hi-Flier
- Univox Hi-Flier Bass
- Univox UC-2
- Voice Delicate
- Voice Frontier
- Voice Hard
- Voice Rich Man 12
- Vox Hurricane
- Vox Spitfire
- Vox Super Ace
- Welson Jazz Vedette
- Wilson Bros VM-100
- Zen-on EB-15
- Zen-on ZES-60
- Zen-on ZES-80T
- Zen-on ZES-1400D
- Zen-on ZES-170
- Zen-on ZES-220
And to you guys who did wrong - here's a mantra for you to chant while going to bed:
"it's all about the waist not the butt, it's all about the waist not the butt, i's all about the waist not the butt, it's..."
Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
- Marauder
- Starcaster (vintage)
- Jazz Bass
- Bass VI
- Bass V
- Performer
- Swinger
- Electric Mandolin
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Bronco Bass
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Modern offset
- Jag-Stang
- Toronado
- Cyclone
- Jaguar Baritone
- Jaguar Bass
- JZM Deluxe
Squier
- Jagmaster
- Super-Sonic
Non-Fender
- Alamo Fiesta
- Alden Jazzcaster
- Aria Diamond 1532T
- Aria Diamond 1802T (2 pups version) + 1803T (3 pups version)
- Aria Diamond Bass
- Burns Marvin/Apache
- Chandler Austin Special
- Chandler Avenger
- Chandler Futurama
- Chandler Taboo
- Charvel Surfcaster
- Columbia CSG-631
- Danelectro '67 Hornet
- Dillion DJM-61
- Domino Spartan
- Egmond Typhoon
- Elk Deluxe
- Eko Camaro
- Eko Cobra
- Epiphone BaxterMaster
- Epiphone ET-270
- Epiphone ET-270 Bass
- Fernandes JG series
- Framus Atlantik
- Framus Atlantik Bass
- Framus Atlantik TV
- Framus Junior 4 Bass
- Framus Junior 6
- Framus Golden Television
- Framus Golden Television Star Bass
- Framus Strato 6
- Framus Strato Deluxe
- Framus Television
- Futurama Corvette Automatic
- Giannini Gemini
- Giannini Super Sonic
- Gibson Explorer
- Gibson Firebird (I, III & V, VII)
- Gibson Firebird Non-reverse
- Gibson Thunderbird
- Gibson Modern
- Gibson Style O
- Gibson F style mandolins
- Gibson RD Artist
- Goya Panther
- Grosh ElectraJet
- Guyatone EB-4
- Guyatone LG-120T
- Guyatone LG-130T
- Guyatone LG-170T
- Guyatone LG-200T
- Guyatone LG-220T
- Hagström Coronado / Coronado VI
- Hagström Corvette / Condor
- Hang-Don (Vietnamese - model information needed)
- Hohner JT60
- Hopf Saturn 63
- Hopf Telstar
- Höfner 164V (III)
- Höfner 177a
- Höfner Galaxie
- Hutchins Beachcomber
- Hutchins Fury
- Hutchins Saffron
- Ibanez 1960s offsets (3 and 4 pu models, info needed)
- Ibanez Jazzmaster copy (lawsuit era)
- Ibanez JetKing
- Ibanez ORM1
- Ibanez Talman
- Isana
- Jackson Outcaster
- Kalamazoo KB-1
- Kalamazoo KG-1
- Kalamazoo KG-2
- Kimaxe thinline
- Klira Star Club
- Liberty MS-150
- Malden Liquid
- Malden Mozak
- Malden Utopia
- Martin E-18
- Martin EB-18
- Martin EM-18
- Martin E-28
- Martin EB-28
- Mory Jazzmaster copy (Japanese - info needed)
- Mosrite The Ventures Models Mark I & II
- Murph
- Music Man Stingray I and II
- Musima Deluxe
- Norma (Japanese - info needed)
- Orpheus (Japanese - info needed)
- Parker Fly
- Pleasant SEV-218
- Pleasant S-12S-248
- Reverend Buckshot
- Reverend Charger
- Reverend Club King
- Reverend Double Agent
- Reverend Flatroc
- Reverend Gil Parris Signature
- Reverend Jetstream
- Reverend Warhawk[/b]
- Schecter Hellcat
- Silvertone amp-in-case models 1 and 2 pickups - both the solid body and semi-hollow versions (different style!)
- Stagg's M Series
- Teisco EP-200
- Teisco Fire Bird
- Teisco NB-4
- Teisco TB-64
- Teisco TG-64
- Tokai Jaguar copy (japanese - info needed)
- Univox Hi-Flier
- Univox Hi-Flier Bass
- Univox UC-2
- Voice Delicate
- Voice Frontier
- Voice Hard
- Voice Rich Man 12
- Vox Hurricane
- Vox Spitfire
- Vox Super Ace
- Welson Jazz Vedette
- Wilson Bros VM-100
- Zen-on EB-15
- Zen-on ZES-60
- Zen-on ZES-80T
- Zen-on ZES-1400D
- Zen-on ZES-170
- Zen-on ZES-220
And to you guys who did wrong - here's a mantra for you to chant while going to bed:
"it's all about the waist not the butt, it's all about the waist not the butt, i's all about the waist not the butt, it's..."
Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into?
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
Should be Schecter Hellcat and Hellcat VI (two different guitars, same body shape).
Schecter Hellcat & Hellcat VI, Reverend Daredevil 290, Shergold Marathon 6, DeArmond Starfire Bass, Yamaha BB1200S & SA2100
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