Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by gutter rock » Tue May 20, 2014 8:36 pm

Ha! Wow, you guys are brutal! We all do have to grow old, doesn't mean we have to stop playing music and start wearing dockers and polo shirts! Not a huge Marr fan, but he seems like a pretty genuine dude in the interviews I have checked out. That being said, I would remove the signature. I would remove the signature on any guitar if it was on the front of the headstock even if it WAS one of my guitar heroes. I can live with sigs on the back of headstock even if I kinda hate the whole idea of signature guitars in the first place.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by bazzawong » Tue May 20, 2014 8:49 pm

gutter rock wrote:Ha! Wow, you guys are brutal! We all do have to grow old, doesn't mean we have to stop playing music and start wearing dockers and polo shirts!
Whoever thought a muppet would have a signature guitar? Now that's brutal, other stuff said here so far has been based on the fact that Marr is more ponce than a guitar player nowdays [yeah smiths were great but he didn't even know what a jaguar was then so thats a bit redundant] Sure he was a great guitar player who played a rickenbacker and a LP in his heyday, when he became a sell-out pensioner playing on lame soundtracks and doing best off shows ruining his old bands material - thats when the guy discovers the Jaguar and then Fender gives him a Sig Jag......sic huh....
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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by ManaT » Wed May 21, 2014 12:09 am

bazzawong wrote: when he became a sell-out pensioner
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bazzawong wrote:playing on lame soundtracks
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bazzawong wrote:and doing best off shows ruining his old bands material
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bazzawong wrote: Sometimes the truth is harsh, but it don't change the fact its the truth...
Where is this 'truth' you speak off? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that's exactly what it is, an opinion.

I've never understood this mentality. Sure, I'm not a massive fan of Marr's recent output, but I don't understand what that's got to do with how deserving he is of a signature guitar.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by Whiny Minotaur » Wed May 21, 2014 2:02 am

Who the fuck cares who gets a signature guitar or not? I hate Mascis's music, that doesn't stop his JM from being a fantastic guitar

Also the term sell-out reeks of middle class fantasy of what artists are supposed to be. You're not entitled to their 'integrity'. Doesn't the mere fact that an artist is willing to cooperate with a corporation like Fender make them a sellout anyway? Quick, better remind the guys who deserve signature guitars that the almighty buck is going to turn them into muppets!
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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by g60dave » Wed May 21, 2014 6:47 am

Well this escalated quickly.

Johnny looks cool and is playing a cool mid 70s deluxe.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by terminalvertigo » Wed May 21, 2014 8:33 am

g60dave wrote:Well this escalated quickly.

Johnny looks cool and is playing a cool mid 70s deluxe.
sorry, being rational is NOT allowed here.
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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by mediocreplayer » Wed May 21, 2014 10:18 am

bazzawong wrote:
gutter rock wrote:Ha! Wow, you guys are brutal! We all do have to grow old, doesn't mean we have to stop playing music and start wearing dockers and polo shirts!
Whoever thought a muppet would have a signature guitar? Now that's brutal, other stuff said here so far has been based on the fact that Marr is more ponce than a guitar player nowdays [yeah smiths were great but he didn't even know what a jaguar was then so thats a bit redundant] Sure he was a great guitar player who played a rickenbacker and a LP in his heyday, when he became a sell-out pensioner playing on lame soundtracks and doing best off shows ruining his old bands material - thats when the guy discovers the Jaguar and then Fender gives him a Sig Jag......sic huh....
Sometimes the truth is harsh, but it don't change the fact its the truth...
What is this rubbish? Is there even a coherent point to this blabbering?

And I'm not even a JMarr fan. But that was painfully 'argued'.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by sdgails » Wed May 21, 2014 12:12 pm

bazzawong wrote:
gutter rock wrote:Ha! Wow, you guys are brutal! We all do have to grow old, doesn't mean we have to stop playing music and start wearing dockers and polo shirts!
Whoever thought a muppet would have a signature guitar? Now that's brutal, other stuff said here so far has been based on the fact that Marr is more ponce than a guitar player nowdays [yeah smiths were great but he didn't even know what a jaguar was then so thats a bit redundant] Sure he was a great guitar player who played a rickenbacker and a LP in his heyday, when he became a sell-out pensioner playing on lame soundtracks and doing best off shows ruining his old bands material - thats when the guy discovers the Jaguar and then Fender gives him a Sig Jag......sic huh....
Sometimes the truth is harsh, but it don't change the fact its the truth...
I don't know what you're trying to convey here. Marr is A legend who is still playing music passionately in his older age, what should he be doing, playing for Nickelback?

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by bazzawong » Wed May 21, 2014 4:15 pm

I get how some people like his old stuff but come on lets be honest his new stuff really blows, he should stop poncing about and age with dignity. Like the colour of the KO and I think sherwood green would b tops, thats where it ends - sorry to have offended u Marr loving fellas

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by smalahove » Wed May 21, 2014 11:07 pm

*Wow. Talk about broadcasting your ignorance.*

I love his guitar playing with TheThe and Modest Mouse, even The Cribs. I didn't listen to those bands because JM played with them - didn't even know at first. In those musical contexts, the jag fits perfectly.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by sdgails » Thu May 22, 2014 6:41 am

bazzawong wrote:I get how some people like his old stuff but come on lets be honest his new stuff really blows, he should stop poncing about and age with dignity. Like the colour of the KO and I think sherwood green would b tops, thats where it ends - sorry to have offended u Marr loving fellas
Did Marr sleep with your girlfriend?

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by g60dave » Thu May 22, 2014 6:52 am

Old age? Hes 50.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by croatan » Thu May 22, 2014 10:41 am

i love his reasons for switching to the jaguar- that it's such a traditionally "cantankerous" instrument that having to work around its "limits" has made him a more creative player.
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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by bazzawong » Fri May 23, 2014 4:31 am

sdgails wrote:
bazzawong wrote:I get how some people like his old stuff but come on lets be honest his new stuff really blows, he should stop poncing about and age with dignity. Like the colour of the KO and I think sherwood green would b tops, thats where it ends - sorry to have offended u Marr loving fellas
Did Marr sleep with your girlfriend?
Nah just think he's a :k who doesn't really warrant having a sig jag named after him considering the material he's created with a Jag 2 date [never really cared 4 TheThe,Modest Mouse or The Cribs] Again just my opinion, which is a shame as I do like the KO colour.

Oh and a Jag is definitely not a traditionally "cantankerous" instrument, what a nob!

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by Fenderbender » Fri May 23, 2014 5:23 am

Back on topic:

Who likes the JM Jag Bare Knuckle pickups? I am really trying to like them but they are so low-output and somewhat noisy being the same polarity. It's kind of a drag because I love the way the guitar plays and sounds but compared to my jag with AVRI's it's like night and day.

Also the Position 4 (pickups in Parallel) bright switch doesn't do much that I can see, would changing the value of the capacitor there help make it a bit brighter?

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