Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by CastrosfriendChe » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:54 pm

loving this guitar. Feels great under the hands. Despite the string spacings putting the E strings close to the fretboard edge, I'm a finger picker and it's worked out really well. I might do the occasional bend on the high E which then might occasionaly slip off but nothing worth swapping a bridge out for. LOVE that fourth pickup position! Also the inevitable first chip took place two nights ago. Only the slightest of knocks against the edge of a whammy pedal. That paint is on thin.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by blackguardbob » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:49 am

The paint isn't thin on these guitars at all. you can see how thick it is in the cavity walls here:

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by JazzmasterJonny » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:53 am

blackguardbob wrote:The paint isn't thin on these guitars at all. you can see how thick it is in the cavity walls here:

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Are you refinishing one tp in that pic?

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by Kylef » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:44 am

blackguardbob wrote:The paint isn't thin on these guitars at all. you can see how thick it is in the cavity walls here:

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Is that Johnny's White one that's been stripped Richard?

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by CastrosfriendChe » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:01 pm

blackguardbob wrote:The paint isn't thin on these guitars at all.[/url]
I dunno. I can only compare to what I've seen, including your pic ;)
Before seeing your picture, I had only read on here that these guitars might be a lil on the thin side. Around page 57 of this thread was some discussion on the matter.
At the end of the day my guitar ever so lightly came up against some metal of a pedal...and really, metal/guitar in a knock, a mark of somekind was always going to be made.
Looking at the chip and then comparing it to a chip in my AVRI 62 Jazzmaster...the Jazzmaster's paint is on thicker.
Is it possible to have some of these Marr guitars with a thinner coat than others, in the manufacturing process?
I don't know, your pic says one thing, mine says another. Well that's if I had a camera. And one that can do a good macro shot.
Btw just to be super clear, I'm not here to argue that ALL the Marr guitars are thin on the paint side, nor the opposite.
My previous comment, "that paint is on thin." perhaps came across as a generalisation, but I was speaking about my guitar, which is thin when compared to your pic and my jazzmaster.
Perhaps the Jazzamster's paint is on too thick lol and the Jag is just right. All I know is my guitar got its first chip and so now I stress less about the finish :)

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by DesmondWafers » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:51 pm

I usually don't like fancy colors, but I've been eyeing the orange jag recently. If I bought it, I'd have to switch the switching back to classic jag. It just looks so much cooler that way. Anyone here done that or I am I just being a baby?

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by blackguardbob » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:24 pm

Saw this if anyone is in the market - thought the price was good.

https://twitter.com/reverbdotcom/status ... 3580950528" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by somebodyelseuk » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:47 pm

DesmondWafers wrote:I usually don't like fancy colors, but I've been eyeing the orange jag recently. If I bought it, I'd have to switch the switching back to classic jag. It just looks so much cooler that way. Anyone here done that or I am I just being a baby?
It'd be cheaper to just buy a regular one and have it resprayed.

Changing the switching because "it looks cooler"???

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by bentonfalls » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:50 pm

Kylef wrote:Has anyone weighed there's? I found my Sherwood noticeably lighter than my White one so I've weighed them (bathroom scales). Sherwood came in at 8 lbs 3 oz, and the White one 9 lbs 1 oz.
I've had my Sherwood for a few weeks now and love it. Well, duh. Mine seems to feel a little bit heavier than my KO, so I weighed them. Turns out they both weigh exactly 9.0 lbs (with strap, and without tremolo). My KO has a mastery, but assume the difference there is negligible. Probably just seems to feel heavier because the Couch strap is new and not broken in. I also have the Sherwood strung with 11's and my KO with 10's to get a different feel and sound from each. Thinking I may string one of them to Nashville tuning a la JM and play around with that.

Anyway, wow, your Sherwood at 8.3 lbs is significantly lighter.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by DesmondWafers » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:59 am

somebodyelseuk wrote:
DesmondWafers wrote:I usually don't like fancy colors, but I've been eyeing the orange jag recently. If I bought it, I'd have to switch the switching back to classic jag. It just looks so much cooler that way. Anyone here done that or I am I just being a baby?
It'd be cheaper to just buy a regular one and have it resprayed.

Changing the switching because "it looks cooler"???
Plenty of people around here change out their perfectly functional pickguards for $145 spitfire guards because it looks cool. The very idea of refinishing the guitar is the same. I would argue that the majority of mods on this website are to look cool.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by mywhitenoise » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:05 pm

blackguardbob wrote:Saw this if anyone is in the market - thought the price was good.

https://twitter.com/reverbdotcom/status" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 3580950528

I saw that recently...still too expensive for me. What the hell? They were trying to sell it for 25% more than it's current price!?

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by Kylef » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:34 pm

Judging by the photos blackguardbob has posted, I'm guessing Johnny has had his white Jag stripped (I asked Blackguardbob in a quote above is this was the case but he's either not seen it or ignored it). I haven't seen his white one on this tour, and the paint in these routes is white. Haven't seen him using this stripped one yet either mind.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by somebodyelseuk » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:33 am

DesmondWafers wrote:
somebodyelseuk wrote:
DesmondWafers wrote:I usually don't like fancy colors, but I've been eyeing the orange jag recently. If I bought it, I'd have to switch the switching back to classic jag. It just looks so much cooler that way. Anyone here done that or I am I just being a baby?
It'd be cheaper to just buy a regular one and have it resprayed.

Changing the switching because "it looks cooler"???
Plenty of people around here change out their perfectly functional pickguards for $145 spitfire guards because it looks cool. The very idea of refinishing the guitar is the same. I would argue that the majority of mods on this website are to look cool.
The switching arrangement on the Johnny Marr is pretty much the whole point of the guitar.
The point of the lever switch in place of the sliders for pickup selection is that it adds a fourth switching option, the top horn switching has two high pass filters in place of the rhythm circuit.
You can't have the fourth position option using slider switches, which also renders one of the HPFs redundant, so you'd end up spending alot over the odds for what would essentially be Johnny Marr's scribble on the head and the hassle of completely rewiring the guitar. :fp:

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by DesmondWafers » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:34 am

So when people put humbuckers in a jag, is that ruining the whole "point" of the guitar? The point of the guitar is whatever you want it to be, many use it for making sound. Your argument is pretty much against modding as a whole, which is fine, but it's pretty typical here.

Also, jmj's seem to be floating around 1200-1300 on reverb, so I seriously doubt I could buy an old avri 62, refin it, put in a staytrem bridge and improve the pickups and still come out on top. Refinishing would probably lower the value too, whereas changing the wiring is easily reversible.

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Re: Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

Post by blackguardbob » Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:41 am

Kylef wrote:Judging by the photos blackguardbob has posted, I'm guessing Johnny has had his white Jag stripped (I asked Blackguardbob in a quote above is this was the case but he's either not seen it or ignored it). I haven't seen his white one on this tour, and the paint in these routes is white. Haven't seen him using this stripped one yet either mind.
Johnny has a number of white ones, the one's he used on the last tour are still intact. The stripped white one is not one of his main guitars.

Joel Ashton who is Johnny's current tech posted a pic of the guitar on his instagram last week but I'm not sure if Johnny has used it yet.

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