Nitrocellulose or polyurethane finish in late 1967??????????

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Nitrocellulose or polyurethane finish in late 1967??????????

Post by samytv » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:55 am

I'm interrested by this cool late 67 jazzmaster and I was wondering if it is allready one with polyurethane finish on the neck or if it is still nitrocellulose finish??????????
Can some please help me

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Re: Nitrocellulose or polyurethane finish in late 1967??????????

Post by the older brother » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:31 am

It looks like poly to me. hard to tell in those direct sunlight pics though, but the wear on the body and the light coloured neck indicates poly. The face of the headstock should be nitro though (and it should be more yellow than the rest of the neck, but as said - hard to tell from those outdoor pics).

just my 2 cents.....
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Re: Nitrocellulose or polyurethane finish in late 1967??????????

Post by Orang Goreng » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:51 am

Yeah, I agree. At least as far as the body is concerned...I find it impossible to form an opinion about the neck finish. What's odd is that the headstock face doesn't seem to be darker than the rest of the neck, which I would expect with a poly neck with nitro headstock (at any rate, in my three CBS Fenders with those specs, the headstock face is a lot darker than the back).

FWIW, the poly change came in '67, according to Jim Shine's site at least, so I guess it wouldn't be a very wild guess to assume that by November, they may all be poly.
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Re: Nitrocellulose or polyurethane finish in late 1967??????????

Post by samytv » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:12 am

The seller sent me more close pictures of the guitars, how can I see if it's poly or nitro?

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Re: Nitrocellulose or polyurethane finish in late 1967??????????

Post by samytv » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:15 am

Nitro on the headstock is geting darker only if the guitar is exposed to the sun's UV, isn't it?
If the guitar had been stored in its case most of the time, the headstock finish could be as clear as the rest of the neck?

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Post by the older brother » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:21 am

Post the pics!

As Orang said above - late 67 is most likely poly on both neck and body.
NOT a bad looking guitar though - it's really  :-*
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Post by samytv » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:23 am

How can I post the pics??

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Post by Orang Goreng » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:24 am

Yeah, I like it too!
samytv wrote: The seller sent me more close pictures of the guitars, how can I see if it's poly or nitro?
Good question. I'm still not sure. When there's checking going on it becomes easy, but an intact finish...pff.

Out of curiosity... why does it matter to you?
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Post by Orang Goreng » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:27 am

samytv wrote: How can I post the pics??
index.php?topic=202.0
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Re: Nitrocellulose or polyurethane finish in late 1967??????????

Post by samytv » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:17 am

Orang Goreng wrote:
samytv wrote: How can I post the pics??
index.php?topic=202.0
I prefer polyurethane finish because my hand sweat a lot and I already ruined my 1965 jazzmaster neck.
I also have a 1969 jazzmaster with polyurethane finish since five years and the neck is still clean like the first day.
That's why it matter to me. :) :)

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Post by the older brother » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:32 am

So - it's a good thing with poly then? For you I mean.
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Post by samytv » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:33 am

Here the pics the seller sent me

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Post by Orang Goreng » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:06 am

Wow, it looks fantastic! I still can't tell for sure, but the gloss of the neck makes me think it's poly indeed.
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Post by the older brother » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:26 am

Orang Goreng wrote: Wow, it looks fantastic! I still can't tell for sure, but the gloss of the neck makes me think it's poly indeed.
+1

I think it's a well stored (in the case), but played poly finished JM. a nitro neck with the same amount of wear and tear on the neck as the body would have had more playwear on the back of the neck. There's no sign whatsoever of checking or yellowed clearcoat, so I vote for poly.

Go for it!  Lovely guitar.
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Re: Nitrocellulose or polyurethane finish in late 1967??????????

Post by sookwinder » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:06 am

do we know what the neck plate serial no. is ?  the photo on the ebay website is hard to make out all the digits
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