Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by ShatoonBringerOfCorn » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:17 am

Vendetagainst wrote:
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What wood is the fretboard in that purple jazzocaster?
Are you talking about mine? I have an aluminum neck on my guitar.
That explains it! What I can now see as the reflection I thought was a crazy woodgrain pattern, like silvered larch or something

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by Beyer160 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:03 am

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The P90 is a noisy design from the 1940s. It was already considered an inferior and outdated pickup by the folks at Gibson themselves by the mid 1950s.

I understand Fender keeping their own legacy products going for the sake of history, but it's definitely moving backwards to be sticking the things on Fenders in the 2020s.

Part of this is on them as a company, and part of it is on guitarists for fetishizing ancient designs instead of moving forward.
The P90 isn't any more "inferior and outdated" than any other passive single coil pickup design. Plus, it sounds fucking awesome. For the sounds I'm trying to achieve, it works way better than any modern noiseless design.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by Larry Mal » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:41 am

Yeah, they did consider it inferior and outdated, but it remained popular anyway.

Not unlike things like the Les Paul, the Telecaster, the Jaguar, the Jazzmaster...
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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by mbene085 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:49 am

Beyer160 wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:03 am
The P90 isn't any more "inferior and outdated" than any other passive single coil pickup design. Plus, it sounds fucking awesome. For the sounds I'm trying to achieve, it works way better than any modern noiseless design.
I wasn't saying that it was. I'm just saying that the people who invented it looked at it 10 years later and thought, "man, we need to replace this already," so it's funny to see people obsessing about them over half a century later.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by Scout » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:22 am

I certainly don’t hate it, but I like P90’s.
This is the land of too many options, so why
would Fender be any different?

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by s_mcsleazy » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:24 am

maybe it's just my love for brown guitars but i'd buy it and just remove the middle pickup and cover over it with a pickguard
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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by manwithtitties » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:57 am

s_mcsleazy wrote:
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maybe it's just my love for brown guitars but i'd buy it and just remove the middle pickup and cover over it with a pickguard
thats the thing, the brown color is great, i think they should do it more! on the other side, middle pickups are terrible imo, and once you remove it, you essentially have a classic player jazzmaster with different routing and pickup covers. this is honestly one of the most phoned in models fender have done in a while.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by blunderbuss » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:04 pm

I’ve thought more about this. I still think this is a fun option for some players. I like p90s existing in the world even if it’s not my jam. That a model like this is hitting this level of production is just interesting. I’m glad they’re trying new things.

But damn I really wish they’d just give us a player grade offset with a maple board and decently open routing options. Like a good Mexican modding platform would be welcome.
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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by manwithtitties » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:32 pm

blunderbuss wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:04 pm

But damn I really wish they’d just give us a player grade offset with a maple board and decently open routing options. Like a good Mexican modding platform would be welcome.
Honestly yeah, they should just bring back my favorite ampro I finishes and make them the standard mexican player JM instead of the stupid hh model. Just use the same pickups as the classic vibes, but have the simplified ampro 1 wiring. It would sell so well. Maybe a white one with a white pickguard and maple neck?

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by blunderbuss » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:57 pm

manwithtitties wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:32 pm
blunderbuss wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:04 pm

But damn I really wish they’d just give us a player grade offset with a maple board and decently open routing options. Like a good Mexican modding platform would be welcome.
Honestly yeah, they should just bring back my favorite ampro I finishes and make them the standard mexican player JM instead of the stupid hh model. Just use the same pickups as the classic vibes, but have the simplified ampro 1 wiring. It would sell so well. Maybe a white one with a white pickguard and maple neck?
Heck yeah. With the wiring for the rhythm circuit there if you want it. I'd buy the crap out of that to mess around with. I really hope we see something like this when they revamp the Player line. Sort of like the CME Shell Pink that's forever is preorder.
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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by marqueemoon » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:21 pm

The Noventa “Tele” looks sorta cool. No idea why it isn’t an Esquire. Then again Fender has “Offset Telecasters” that don’t have a Tele body or Tele pickups.

3 P90s is one or two too many in my book though.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by countertext » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:34 pm

Yeah, a P-90 Esquire is something I would consider useful.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by simonhpieman » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:51 am

I mean, obviously there's this...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJtfhEWs_fY ... 1dluvvpxlc

Seems they've missed a trick making this the one guitar in the world they don't offer in sunburst. Or perhaps intentially not?

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by burpgun » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:02 am

mbene085 wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:32 pm
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I mean it’s awesome how popular P90s have become. I remember them being rare and now they’re on everything.
Is it, though?

The P90 is a noisy design from the 1940s. It was already considered an inferior and outdated pickup by the folks at Gibson themselves by the mid 1950s.

I understand Fender keeping their own legacy products going for the sake of history, but it's definitely moving backwards to be sticking the things on Fenders in the 2020s.

Part of this is on them as a company, and part of it is on guitarists for fetishizing ancient designs instead of moving forward.
I'm sort of befuddled by P90s at the moment. I have a SG Classic the prior owner pull some sort of Lollar P90s into to replace the stock offerings. I'm a single coil only house, and these pickups are absolutely the most quiet pickups I have access to, even with lots of distortion on. I even thought they might be some sort of weird humbucker under the cover, but they aren't.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by algeriet » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:42 pm

zenarcade wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:35 am
Why not bring back the US 62 reissues with matching headstocks and cool metallic finishes
Agreed. Make a continuation of the AV65 line with expanded models: AV60, AV65, AV67 etc.

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