Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by zenarcade » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:35 am

I really don't understand all these (mostly) stupid models, with different trems, humbuckers, p90s, Strat Single coils, boring colors..Why not bring back the US 62 reissues with matching headstocks and cool metallic finishes

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by Nick and the Noise » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:52 am

Needs a switch to go into full P270 mode. 🚀

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by mbene085 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:01 am

zenarcade wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:35 am
I really don't understand all these (mostly) stupid models, with different trems, humbuckers, p90s, Strat Single coils, boring colors..Why not bring back the US 62 reissues with matching headstocks and cool metallic finishes
Given how many offsets have been made with PAFs/P90s/TOMs, I'm suspecting that this strategy has less to do with appealing to Offset fans than it does with trying to take a bite out of Gibson's share of the market.

I mean, in the last decade of Gibsonized Fender models, their guitars have been selling like absolute hotcakes while Gibson themselves have floundered, been raided by the feds, gone bankrupt, changed leadership, and made PR blunder after PR blunder.

So maybe it's working?

Fans of actual Fender designs still got things in that time span like the AV65s, Am Pros, AOs, some Alternate Universe models like the XII, the resurrection of the Starcaster and Coronado, etc.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by blunderbuss » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:05 am

I hope someone gets one of these and really enjoys it. Not for me but it's definitely for someone. Lord Fuzzman was posting about them this morning.

At the end of the day I really just want them to make a jazzblaster.
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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by zenarcade » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:16 am

mbene085 wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:01 am
zenarcade wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:35 am
I really don't understand all these (mostly) stupid models, with different trems, humbuckers, p90s, Strat Single coils, boring colors..Why not bring back the US 62 reissues with matching headstocks and cool metallic finishes
Given how many offsets have been made with PAFs/P90s/TOMs, I'm suspecting that this strategy has less to do with appealing to Offset fans than it does with trying to take a bite out of Gibson's share of the market.

I mean, in the last decade of Gibsonized Fender models, their guitars have been selling like absolute hotcakes while Gibson themselves have floundered, been raided by the feds, gone bankrupt, changed leadership, and made PR blunder after PR blunder.

So maybe it's working?

Fans of actual Fender designs still got things in that time span like the AV65s, Am Pros, AOs, some Alternate Universe models like the XII, the resurrection of the Starcaster and Coronado, etc.
I guess you are right. Seems like us vintage peroid correct obsessed geeks are not their targets. :)
I really appreciate that they tried to bring back the classic designs. But they messed up with the shapes a lot. Especially on the Marauder - and of course put a Strat trem on it.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by Vendetagainst » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:28 am

Lol I'm the only one in this thread who thinks this is sick. But then again, my guitar is a Strat Jazzmaster hybrid and I unironically want and love the Hello Kitty Strat, so I'm probs just weird. P90s in a JM seem like a good idea to me, given the kind of guitarists that gravitate to offsets nowadays.
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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by electric hamburger » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:24 pm

Why couldn't they at least put three jazzmaster pickups on it (if they'd fit)? The thing looks like it's from Rondo Music

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by Axolotl » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:53 pm

electric hamburger wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:24 pm
Why couldn't they at least put three jazzmaster pickups on it (if they'd fit)? The thing looks like it's from Rondo Music
This. For some reason, p90s in offset bodies look very cheap to me.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by Gordon » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:25 pm

electric hamburger wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:24 pm
Why couldn't they at least put three jazzmaster pickups on it (if they'd fit)?
Because it's part of a whole series of guitars with P90s (hence the name, Noventa, I assume).
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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by blunderbuss » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:51 pm

I mean it’s awesome how popular P90s have become. I remember them being rare and now they’re on everything.
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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by FiguredMaple » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:26 pm

I'd also rather to see three JMs vs P90s

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by mbene085 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:32 pm

blunderbuss wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:51 pm
I mean it’s awesome how popular P90s have become. I remember them being rare and now they’re on everything.
Is it, though?

The P90 is a noisy design from the 1940s. It was already considered an inferior and outdated pickup by the folks at Gibson themselves by the mid 1950s.

I understand Fender keeping their own legacy products going for the sake of history, but it's definitely moving backwards to be sticking the things on Fenders in the 2020s.

Part of this is on them as a company, and part of it is on guitarists for fetishizing ancient designs instead of moving forward.

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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by andy_tchp » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:40 pm

Surf Green and Fiesta Red are great finish colours.

Absolutely ruined by the black pickup covers/knobs paired with Fender's interminably awful 'mint' green guards. :k
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Re: Fender Noventa Jazzmaster

Post by electric hamburger » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:25 pm

Gordon wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:25 pm
electric hamburger wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:24 pm
Why couldn't they at least put three jazzmaster pickups on it (if they'd fit)?
Because it's part of a whole series of guitars with P90s (hence the name, Noventa, I assume).
If I wanted p-90s, I'd play Epis or Gibsons

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