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Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:40 am
by fullerplast
Jay wrote: It's certainly possible that the switch routes are there but just covered by something stuck to the pickguard from underneath.

That's what I was saying (bad spelling and all):
Maybe there are routes under there, but they're blcoked off by some shielding or something.

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:41 am
by serial
I'm in agreement with the "mutt" line and assume with SY "that pretty much everything is modded for functionality over vintage correctness.

I thought that the number stamps were different on some Mustangs, Duos and Musicmasters?  I know that they have "8" stamps for mid-60s, but that's for the Gibby scale necks on Mustangs and some Duos.  I've also seen more "16"s than 8s on Duos and MMs. Also 9s I think, but I seem to recall the 9s being for the shorter scale ones.

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:56 am
by zhivago
serial wrote: I'm in agreement with the "mutt" line and assume with SY "that pretty much everything is modded for functionality over vintage correctness.
that's what it comes down to.

in a way, I have always excused them for that, as they are such a hard-working band...all of the instruments are gigged and recorded all year long....these offsets have screamed in so many different time zones year in and year out, it's just ridiculous! :)

some are even integral parts of the songs (like the "Drifter" guitar etc)

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:11 am
by fullerplast
I know that they have "8" stamps for mid-60s, but that's for the Gibby scale necks on Mustangs and some Duos.  I've also seen more "16"s than 8s on Duos and MMs. Also 9s I think, but I seem to recall the 9s being for the shorter scale ones.
8 = 24"

9 = 22.5"

15 = 24" post 65

16 = 22.5 post 65

These codes are the same for Mustang/Duo/MM. No originals had a true "Gibby scale" (24.75"), though the Cyclone does now.

22.5" also had 3/4 stamps prior to the use of 9,  ie. 3/4 APR 63A

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:16 am
by Jay
fullerplast wrote:
Jay wrote: It's certainly possible that the switch routes are there but just covered by something stuck to the pickguard from underneath.

That's what I was saying (bad spelling and all):
Maybe there are routes under there, but they're blcoked off by some shielding or something.
That'll teach me to read every post thoroughly.  :-[

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:25 am
by flatfiver
It's got 3 pickups - it's a Strat!  :P

;)

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:52 pm
by Pumpkin
I also thought that Thurston possibly covered the route up under the pickgaurd,but then i couldn't find one Jazzmaster that he'd done it to, so why do it to a duo? Aesthetics have never been SY forte,LOL
This is such a cool guitar and the 3 pckups in it are neato.

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:44 am
by Naturality
Apparently it already had 3 pickups adn stuff when they bought.

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:52 am
by NoFi
16 = 22.5 post 65
There's a neck on ebay now stamped 16JUL 66 B with 22 frets ... so it has to be 24" scale ? So how could 16 mean 22.5".

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:11 am
by fullerplast
Oops, sorry.... my mistake. Here's the correct info:

15 = Jaguar (post 65)

16 = Mustang/MM/Duo 24" (post '65)

There weren't many 22.5" necks after '64, maybe they kept using the 9 code when the rest of the codes changed in '65. I know they were still offered until '69, but probably just leftovers.

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:32 am
by NoFi
Thanks, it's just that i bought a 16 66 B neck a few days ago on ebay and i really dont want it to be the 22.5" scale when it finally arrives. I was afraid for a few minutes.

Re: Isn't this a Mustang

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:40 am
by fullerplast
Thats my fault for relying on memory.  :o

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