Re: Fender Mustang '65 RI

Riptide · Post by **Riptide** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:22 pm

Iv been looking at the fender mustang RI and a Fender Jaguar CIJ and i cant decide, no stores near me have either guitar so i thought id ask, which do you think would work better for me, i play alt rock/college rock, ska, surf, and "stoner" rock. I really like short scale fenders or else i would just get a jazzmaster. anyways any input would be great!

frippy · Post by **frippy** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:29 pm

Riptide wrote: Iv been looking at the fender mustang RI and a Fender Jaguar CIJ and i cant decide, no stores near me have either guitar so i thought id ask, which do you think would work better for me, i play alt rock/college rock, ska, surf, and "stoner" rock. I really like short scale fenders or else i would just get a jazzmaster. anyways any input would be great!

IMO both would work. The Dynamic Vibrato on the Mustang is a love/hate item, however, and it often decides which guitar someone prefers. In my experience, the '65 Mustang reissue is very good stock and is a great guitar but it's not a Jaguar

Riptide · Post by **Riptide** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:56 pm

iv never gotten the chance to play a mustang i went to SAmash last weekend to play one but they had just sold it literaly 20 in before i got there.
I love the jag trem, i play a surfmaster wich is a daphine blue jazzmaster w/ 3 p-90's

i was watching the Gorillaz live, i see they use quite a few mustangs through what looks like a twin reverb, they get a realy realy nice tone, nice and full, i know if i get a cij jag ill need to get a pickup swap, but iv heard the RI mustang is pretty nice, anyways what do you guys think about the RI how does it sound and play??

Pumpkin · Post by **Pumpkin** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:00 pm

The RI fenders are as good as vintage ones were when they were new imo.This is a baseless comment,but i think they probably are.

Mustangs are great,you can lower the vibrato so its like a hard tail,also increasing sustain quite a bit,or you can set it up like its meant to be for a more jaguar type jangle.It sounds a little jaguaresque but also has some stat qualities too,although its far from a strat in design it does share some strat tones.
If you put a humbucker in the bridge,the mustang has so much guts it blows me away,its one powerful guitar!

Jaguars are great,i have a cij with antiquity pups and new electronics etc in it and i favor this over my 66 mustang.They are unique and really suited to indie type tunes,but kinda suck for long droned out sustaining riffs like EARTH........enter mustang!
Jaguars seem to hypnotize me and make me extremely biased toward other guitars,they are an amazing instrument!

frippy · Post by **frippy** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:49 pm

Riptide wrote: i know if i get a cij jag ill need to get a pickup swap, but iv heard the RI mustang is pretty nice, anyways what do you guys think about the RI how does it sound and play??

The '65 reissue Mustang pickups seem very much like the originals to me but I've more experience with '70s Mustangs than '60s ones. The CIJ '65 reissue does sound and feel a good bit better than the CIJ '69 reissue Fender USA marketed a couple of years ago IMO.

Riptide · Post by **Riptide** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:55 am

iv been searching youtube to give me a better idea of their tone, but iv had no luckk finding a good vid of just the mustang, i watched RobRoe's vid of his daphine blue 65 RI mustang but i had a hard time hearing the mustang cause of the music that he was playing along with.....any one know of any clips that give a good example of the mustang? the the guitar will probably be used with either a fender bassman, hotrod deville, or a marshall dsl 2000, or a marshall jcm 900, so any ideas on how it will perform?

Pumpkin · Post by **Pumpkin** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:24 pm

Like it should.....amazing!

I would definitely get a set,or at least a bridge pickup to put in it tho!
Japanese fenders have only one short coming really,and that would be the pickups.They're ok and some are quite good but they obviously wont stand up to novaks,sd,dimarzio etc.

An ideal pup for it would be the SD jaguar,vintage,hot or QP depending what you want.I've had all three and they're all really good. I feel the SD hot is the nicest of all these,it has a nice single coil sound but handles well with fuzz and distortion,the SD Vintage handles fuzz well but is thin with distortion,the QP handles anything you throw at it

One thing people often get disappointed with is when they change the pups in any given guitar thinking it will make it sound like a different guitar,it wont!
A mustang will sound like a mustang no matter what pups you put in it,its just the degree of various tones that change as the wood plays a far greater role in its sound than any electrics do.

As for live clips of a mustang,I'll say the typical...look for Nirvana vids and you'll no doubt find clean and distorted mustangs being used.If you hear a Mustang with a polychorus,it'll mesmerize you and you'll want to start collecting them!

Riptide · Post by **Riptide** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:38 pm

haha, iv been watching plenty of nirvana, i don't care if kurt wasn't an a+ guitarist he was creative and it worked for him and he played really kool offsets, iv been toying with when i get a mustang that is, putting a Seymour Duncan JB in the bridge, but if i get a jag i use to want to mutilate it like who ever sold kurt that jag, but i think i would rather put hot SD jag pickups in it. The music i play varies a lot, but the band im in we play alt rock post grunge stuff, its fun. Iv heard that the mustangs just love EHX Big Muffs (mudhoney proved this to me) has anyone tried one with a ProCO RAT?