Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
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Re: Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
The XII bridges are rare. I actually need a couple of saddles for mine for the octave fifth and sixth strings. One of the saddles I have looks like a Mustang saddle cut down, and the other I think is a genuine XII saddle, but the wrong size for that string! A few months ago there was an Ebay auction for six XII saddles, but they were too wide - I think they were in fact Mustang saddles - which could have come from a XII that somebody converted to a six string though.
Neck heel width: Yes, it is wider than a standard Fender neck - 2 5/8ths from what I remember - I'll measure it, or find the specifications from when I had mine made a little later. This is one of the reasons why I didn't just get a strat XII style neck as that was a slightly cheaper option (the other eason being that the hockey stick headstock just looks right). A standard width neck would work, but there would be gaps either side at the neck pocket.
Pickgguard; I don't have a tracing, but if you're not in a hurry, I'll try and remember to do one next time I restring, or have the pickguard off for any reason (although I don't see that happening soon).
Neck heel width: Yes, it is wider than a standard Fender neck - 2 5/8ths from what I remember - I'll measure it, or find the specifications from when I had mine made a little later. This is one of the reasons why I didn't just get a strat XII style neck as that was a slightly cheaper option (the other eason being that the hockey stick headstock just looks right). A standard width neck would work, but there would be gaps either side at the neck pocket.
Pickgguard; I don't have a tracing, but if you're not in a hurry, I'll try and remember to do one next time I restring, or have the pickguard off for any reason (although I don't see that happening soon).
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Re: Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
matthew wrote:
Pickgguard; I don't have a tracing, but if you're not in a hurry, I'll try and remember to do one next time I restring, or have the pickguard off for any reason (although I don't see that happening soon).
if you could do us a trace at some point it'll be fantastic!
we could keep it onlinr for reference too
I bought an NOS XII control plate...once it arrives, I'm scanning it, and putting it on here for reference
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Re: Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
here is my 98 musicmaster.....close up photo of the bridge coming soon....
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Re: Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
i also would like to add that this guitar isn't surf green it is infact sonic blue. poor guitar, the dude on ebay i got it from must have smoked a carton a day!
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great pics!
thank you for this!
thank you for this!
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Re: Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
A Venus XII went cheaply on ebay last week. $550ish I remember....
just for info....
real XII bridges = 6 mounting holes
reissue XII = 5 mounting holes
but they are the same.
I would imagine a luthier would curse anyone wanting them to route a body for XII bridge and mounting block.
Better idea in my opinion if you like the look of XII bridge block look no further than Leo's legacy of the G and L saddle lock bridge:
surpised noone had mentioned it already . The XII was the last thing Leon worked on I believe and it's why Musicman and G & L bridges look so much like XIIs!!
just for info....
real XII bridges = 6 mounting holes
reissue XII = 5 mounting holes
but they are the same.
I would imagine a luthier would curse anyone wanting them to route a body for XII bridge and mounting block.
Better idea in my opinion if you like the look of XII bridge block look no further than Leo's legacy of the G and L saddle lock bridge:
surpised noone had mentioned it already . The XII was the last thing Leon worked on I believe and it's why Musicman and G & L bridges look so much like XIIs!!
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Re: Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
Marc - you've got that right! It's much better leaving that kind of thing to a CNC router.Marc wrote:
I would imagine a luthier would curse anyone wanting them to route a body for XII bridge and mounting block.
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Re: Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
that looks cool....is it the same dimension as the XII bridge?Marc wrote:
Better idea in my opinion if you like the look of XII bridge block look no further than Leo's legacy of the G and L saddle lock bridge:
would it fit the pickguard cutout ok?
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Re: Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
zhivago - I've absolutely no idea - just pointing out the similar heavy duty look and the Fender design legacy. But - I would imagine that as one was designed in the mid 60's for a 12 string and the other in the 80's for a 6 string almost definatley not!!zhivago wrote:that looks cool....is it the same dimension as the XII bridge?Marc wrote:
Better idea in my opinion if you like the look of XII bridge block look no further than Leo's legacy of the G and L saddle lock bridge:
would it fit the pickguard cutout ok?
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Re: Fender Toronado bridge the same dimensions/shape as the XII's?
The bridge plate profile will be completely different.
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