'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
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'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
My apologies if the topic has been addressed before, I have not been able to find it.
Is there an 'exhaustive' list of offsets ? OK, JM, Jag, VI, XII and...?
Is there an 'exhaustive' list of offsets ? OK, JM, Jag, VI, XII and...?
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars
I haven't seen a list ..
I always think of those as the "big four" as they are old designs that seem to be based directly on the original patent drawing of the offset body. I guess the Jazz bass qualifies in that regard as well.
There are plenty of others though, some obvious and some not so obvious depending on how strictly you want to draw lines across them. Just off the top of my head:
Other Fenders: later model Mustangs/etc., Starcasters, Jagmasters, Jagstangs.
Old non-Fenders: some models of Framus, Eko, Maton, Hofner, Vox etc. .. not forgetting the Serviceman's guitars either!
New non-Fenders: Reverends (the old US shape and some of the MIK), Dipinto Galaxie
If you want to start up and maintain a list of offsets, you could make a good start by reading through the back threads here I guess. Good luck!

I always think of those as the "big four" as they are old designs that seem to be based directly on the original patent drawing of the offset body. I guess the Jazz bass qualifies in that regard as well.
There are plenty of others though, some obvious and some not so obvious depending on how strictly you want to draw lines across them. Just off the top of my head:
Other Fenders: later model Mustangs/etc., Starcasters, Jagmasters, Jagstangs.
Old non-Fenders: some models of Framus, Eko, Maton, Hofner, Vox etc. .. not forgetting the Serviceman's guitars either!
New non-Fenders: Reverends (the old US shape and some of the MIK), Dipinto Galaxie
If you want to start up and maintain a list of offsets, you could make a good start by reading through the back threads here I guess. Good luck!

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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars
Yeah, I may try and make a list.
Is the Squier Venus considered an offset ?
Is the Squier Venus considered an offset ?
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars
I'm guessing we're not just counting GUITAR guitars, but I mean, there is one offset instrument that is more popular than all of those and it would be the JAZZ BASS!
There are tones of Offset Fenders out there. Perhaps we should have a list of only Fender Offsets and then a list of Non-Fender Offsets so as to avoid confusion.
There are tones of Offset Fenders out there. Perhaps we should have a list of only Fender Offsets and then a list of Non-Fender Offsets so as to avoid confusion.
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Another old thread resurrected!
Recently I realized that I am closing in on a very well-rounded offset collection. It got me thinking that maybe I would try to slowly accumulate (at least) one of each of every offset Fender ever made, and maybe a few NFOs. So I decided to go back and find the definitive list, but boy oh boy it sure sucks! Seriously, were we all just asleep that day, this thread has four replies and none of them have anything resembling a list! O.k., so here it goes:
Fender Offsets
1. Jazzmaster
2. Jaguar
3. Bass VI
4. Electric XII
5. Duo-Sonic
6. Music Master
7. Mustang
8. Starcaster
9. Duo-Sonic II
10. Music Master II
11. Toronado
Non-Fender Offsets
1. Ibanez Talman
2. Framus Strato 6
3. Teisco TB-64
4. (Duh, I'm asleep right now)
Now copy the list into your reply and add to it!

Fender Offsets
1. Jazzmaster
2. Jaguar
3. Bass VI
4. Electric XII
5. Duo-Sonic
6. Music Master
7. Mustang
8. Starcaster
9. Duo-Sonic II
10. Music Master II
11. Toronado
Non-Fender Offsets
1. Ibanez Talman
2. Framus Strato 6
3. Teisco TB-64
4. (Duh, I'm asleep right now)
Now copy the list into your reply and add to it!


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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars
Fender Offsets
1. Jazzmaster
2. Jaguar
3. Bass VI
4. Electric XII
5. Duo-Sonic
6. Music Master
7. Mustang
8. Starcaster
9. Duo-Sonic II
10. Music Master II
11. Toronado
Non-Fender Offsets
1. Ibanez Talman
2. Framus Strato 6
3. Teisco TB-64
4. Charvel surfcaster
1. Jazzmaster
2. Jaguar
3. Bass VI
4. Electric XII
5. Duo-Sonic
6. Music Master
7. Mustang
8. Starcaster
9. Duo-Sonic II
10. Music Master II
11. Toronado
Non-Fender Offsets
1. Ibanez Talman
2. Framus Strato 6
3. Teisco TB-64
4. Charvel surfcaster
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars
Yep basses too. I edited the title.StevenO wrote: I'm guessing we're not just counting GUITAR guitars, but I mean, there is one offset instrument that is more popular than all of those and it would be the JAZZ BASS!
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Re: Another old thread resurrected!
Thanks for resurrecting the thread.stereordinary wrote: Recently I realized that I am closing in on a very well-rounded offset collection. It got me thinking that maybe I would try to slowly accumulate (at least) one of each of every offset Fender ever made, and maybe a few NFOs. So I decided to go back and find the definitive list, but boy oh boy it sure sucks! Seriously, were we all just asleep that day, this thread has four replies and none of them have anything resembling a list! O.k., so here it goes:

GUITARS
Fender Offsets
1. Jazzmaster
2. Jaguar
3. Bass VI
4. Electric XII
5. Duo-Sonic
6. Music Master
7. Mustang
8. Starcaster
9. Duo-Sonic II
10. Music Master II
11. Toronado
Non-Fender Offsets
1. Ibanez Talman
2. Framus Strato 6
3. Teisco TB-64
4. Charvel surfcaster
5. Rondo SX SJM-62 VWH
BASSES
Fender Offsets
1. Jazz Bass
The Rondo is something like the ugliest offset in the world.

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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
As far as I can tell, the 1st generation student models aren't offset...pretty symmetrical waist.
I have a feeling some other distinction needs to be made. Fender offsets come in two flavours, the classic one with the offset waist & butt, and the student one with just the offset waist and straight butt. My attempt:
Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar (all versions including baritones)
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
(-Marauder, all versions)
- Starcaster
- Jag-Stang
-Jazz Bass
(- Jazzmaster Bass. Yeah, I know, there's only three or so of them)
- Bass VI
- Performer
(- Is there a performer bass?)
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Squier
- Jagmaster
- That upside down jazzmaster one
Non-Fender
Pretty much everything Italian, German, Japanese, Dutch, Yugoslavian, Czechoslovakian, Russian from the early '60s through the mid '70s.
I have a feeling some other distinction needs to be made. Fender offsets come in two flavours, the classic one with the offset waist & butt, and the student one with just the offset waist and straight butt. My attempt:
Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar (all versions including baritones)
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
(-Marauder, all versions)
- Starcaster
- Jag-Stang
-Jazz Bass
(- Jazzmaster Bass. Yeah, I know, there's only three or so of them)
- Bass VI
- Performer
(- Is there a performer bass?)
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Squier
- Jagmaster
- That upside down jazzmaster one
Non-Fender
Pretty much everything Italian, German, Japanese, Dutch, Yugoslavian, Czechoslovakian, Russian from the early '60s through the mid '70s.
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I'm confused here...should we continue with the "copy the old list and add you contribution" or...
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
It might be better to copy and add, even with a modified structure.the older brother wrote:
I'm confused here...should we continue with the "copy the old list and add you contribution" or...
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
Fender
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
- Marauder
- Starcaster (vintage)
- Jag-Stang
- Jazz Bass
- Bass VI
- Performer
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Squier
- Jagmaster
- Super-Sonic
Non-Fender
- Ibanez Talman
- Framus Strato 6
- Teisco TB-64
- Charvel surfcaster
- Rondo SX SJM-62 VWH
- Klira Star Club
Classic Offset
- Jazzmaster
- Jaguar
- Electric XII
- Custom/Maverick
- Marauder
- Starcaster (vintage)
- Jag-Stang
- Jazz Bass
- Bass VI
- Performer
Student Offset
- Mustang
- Duo-Sonic II
- Musicmaster II, Music Master
- Bronco
- Musicmaster Bass
- Mustang Bass
Squier
- Jagmaster
- Super-Sonic
Non-Fender
- Ibanez Talman
- Framus Strato 6
- Teisco TB-64
- Charvel surfcaster
- Rondo SX SJM-62 VWH
- Klira Star Club
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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
Oh yeah, this getting good. 

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Re: Another old thread resurrected!
Correct me if I'm wrong: this Rondo doesn't have an offset waist. It has an asymmetrical body, but, much like a Gibson Firebird, it's not a true offset guitar by the def'n of this forum.kreuzberg wrote:
The Rondo is something like the ugliest offset in the world.

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Re: 'Official' list of offset guitars and basses
I may be wrong, but it looks like offset-waist to me. :-\
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