Staytrem vs. Mastery or Mastery vs. Staytrem

[gaex86]

all this talking got me interested and this morning bought a Straytrem. Can't wait to try it on my lovely JM!!

[planningtojazz]

has anyone gotten the mastery bridge to intonate correctly?

[empyrean]

Well, I'm a believer now.

I've had this on my Jag for a bit now. I had so little free-time when I initially got it that I loosened the strings and just did a straight swap, eyeballing the height, and tuned it back up in the morning before work.

Even without a proper set up, it just pushed the guitar to a new level. When I got back and eventually did a setup (which was the easiest one I've ever done on an offset, and the easiest intonation ever) it immediately blew my mind. I solves all the problems it promises to. It matches the radius perfectly, the overtones are glorious, my high e isn't dangling in space, no jumping strings, and the sustain difference is immediately noticeable and welcomed!

I tried and tried to get the original bridge to work, but it wasn't having it - way to much wear to it over the years.

I'm having a similar issue with the D string hitting the back of the bridge, but it's not audible through the amp. Might just have to play with bridge heights a bit, but it honestly ins't a problem.

I feel a lot better about putting on a Staytrem vs a Mastery on a vintage offset - strictly looks wise. What can I say, I'm shallow. (And much more willing to spend half the money for a great product)

It looks right at home to me. Glad it's going to be much more reliable now, and able to be my go-to.

[parry]

Yes, re: ridiculously easy setup!
A very pleasant surprise

After playing the guitar with the Staytrem bridge a whole lot longer, I've found some sweetness in that low E hitting the back of the bridge.
If your signal is really dirty and you strum behind the bridge you can change notes on the fretboard and it sounds fantastic!! REALLY unique/aggressive-sounding.


I may just procrastinate, fixing said "problem".

When my Jag comes on Friday, I'm going to set it up with my JMs AVRI bridge, that has my old Mustang saddles on it.
I'm curious to see how the two compare. If I like it (can't see why not), I'll stick with that on the Jag. Much as I'd like to rush out and buy another Staytrem...

has anyone gotten the mastery bridge to intonate correctly?

Mine was pretty good - if not, spot-on. It took a ton of work, and I was using flatwound 13s with it. From what I've read of other's woes, it seems the Mastery can be a bit finicky. dependent upon string gauge...

[andy_tchp]

has anyone gotten the mastery bridge to intonate correctly?

Yes (?) Most people that own them have.

[gaex86]

This would be a short straytrem review.
I gotta start saying that I've never tried the mastery and I've never had big problems with the standard bridge. My biggest concern was the occasional rattling and the hassle of using the loctite to keep all the screws in the right place etc. Also I hated the high E string felling out of fretboard occasionally.
At first sight the straytrem bridge looks sturdier and more solid, and when put on visually doesn't look so different from the standard one (for those who care). The pre-set radius makes it the perfect drop-in replacement, and getting the correct intonation was surprisingly easy and fast. I can't say if sonically anything changed, but I can say now my JM feels a lot more solid; the occasional buzz I got when strumming really hard (especially when not plugged) is gone. The bridge stays tight in its place, and the strings to seem to have a better tension. The JM was already my gigging axe, but I've always been afraid of random problems the bridge could have given me. Now my JM seems even more reliable. I know I'm probably in the honey-moon phase, but I'm confident, so so far so good!

*excuse me for the shitty grammar, I'm italian

[mackerelmint]

has anyone gotten the mastery bridge to intonate correctly?

That's always been my big reservation about the Mastery. It looks like intonation is gonna be a little bit of a compromise with that thing since you've got 1 saddle to angle correctly for 3 separate strings. For what they cost, compromises shouldn't be part of the package.

[andy_tchp]

It looks like intonation is gonna be a little bit of a compromise with that thing since you've got 1 saddle to angle correctly for 3 separate strings. For what they cost, compromises shouldn't be part of the package.

And how many of them have you used to come to this conclusion?

I have two and they both seem to be fine.

[slavemaster]

has anyone gotten the mastery bridge to intonate correctly?

That's always been my big reservation about the Mastery. It looks like intonation is gonna be a little bit of a compromise with that thing since you've got 1 saddle to angle correctly for 3 separate strings. For what they cost, compromises shouldn't be part of the package.

The bridge intonates perfectly. If you use the search engine here, you may find that I had some problems with intonating the B with Pyramid flats, but it turned out it was a problem with that exact string. The next batch I've got intonated straight ahead, no problems.

[mackerelmint]

It looks like intonation is gonna be a little bit of a compromise with that thing since you've got 1 saddle to angle correctly for 3 separate strings. For what they cost, compromises shouldn't be part of the package.

And how many of them have you used to come to this conclusion?

I have two and they both seem to be fine.

None! I came close, though. Ultimately, it comes down to the geometry of points on a line. You can always get 2 out of 3, but you're either in luck and the 3rd point falls on the line, or it doesn't and you get it as close as you can and call it good. It doesn't mean the intonation will be horrible, just that it won't be as "on" as individual saddles (or a trio of two string saddles) will get it. That's why I chose not to get the mastery. I'm glad I didn't, too- my EAD saddles intonate in a noticeable V shape relative to each other.

[Axolotl]

After reading this thread, I decided to go for the staytrem for my 65 jag. I have a few bridge issues, such as a thumpy low E string with not the best intonation, a few rattles here and there, etc. Nothing that will keep me from loving that axe, but I'm really looking forward to see how the staytrem works out! It should be here tomorrow or monday.

[planningtojazz]

What about the tighter feel to the mastery bridge, do you guys like or dislike that?

[Bronco Billy]

Yes, re: ridiculously easy setup!
A very pleasant surprise

After playing the guitar with the Staytrem bridge a whole lot longer, I've found some sweetness in that low E hitting the back of the bridge.
If your signal is really dirty and you strum behind the bridge you can change notes on the fretboard and it sounds fantastic!! REALLY unique/aggressive-sounding.

Like this?

http://youtu.be/Z4LNW5UujSM?t=9m32s

[andy_tchp]

It looks like intonation is gonna be a little bit of a compromise with that thing since you've got 1 saddle to angle correctly for 3 separate strings. For what they cost, compromises shouldn't be part of the package.

And how many of them have you used to come to this conclusion?

I have two and they both seem to be fine.

None!

[HorseyBoy]

What about the tighter feel to the mastery bridge, do you guys like or dislike that?

Do you mean is the Staytrem spacing tighter than the Mastery? They're both the same: 52mm. But both are tighter than the stock spacing of a JM (55mm). I'm used to the smaller spacing from Gibson bridges so I don't notice it at all.