Staytrem vs. Mastery or Mastery vs. Staytrem

[caliban]

What about the tighter feel to the mastery bridge, do you guys like or dislike that?

Do you mean is the Staytrem spacing tighter than the Mastery? They're both the same: 52mm. But both are tighter than the stock spacing of a JM (55mm). I'm used to the smaller spacing from Gibson bridges so I don't notice it at all.

You notice it looking at the string and polepiece alignment. A normal mustang bridge looks right at your neck pickup, and too wide at bridge pickup. These TOM spacings look right at the bridge pickup and too small at the neck pickup. People that keep the jag/JM-bridge on, will probably use the multiple grooves on it to set the strings somewhere inbetween, I guess.

[parry]

Yes, re: ridiculously easy setup!
A very pleasant surprise

After playing the guitar with the Staytrem bridge a whole lot longer, I've found some sweetness in that low E hitting the back of the bridge.
If your signal is really dirty and you strum behind the bridge you can change notes on the fretboard and it sounds fantastic!! REALLY unique/aggressive-sounding.

Like this?

http://youtu.be/Z4LNW5UujSM?t=9m32s

Almost there...

[mackerelmint]

And how many of them have you used to come to this conclusion?

I have two and they both seem to be fine.

None!

A mastery never would have intonated acceptably well on the guitar I was considering it for. Why should I have hassled with it? Math don't tell no lies.

[johnnydeformed]

I recently installed a Staytrem JM bridge and trem arm/collet replacement on my '62 AVRI Jag. I've used Mastery, Mustang and standard bridges and while I've had success with all of them I prefer the Staytrem. The build quality, ease of use and sound are what put it over the top for me. The bridge posts are also now smaller so that the mute can be used without modification. I have no problem with the Mastery but I think the Staytrem is truer to the overall character of the guitar. It also doesn't hurt that I was able to get the bridge and trem arm placement for less than a Mastery.

[parry]

Ordered a second Staytrem - for the new Jag.

[Axolotl]

Got my staytrem this morning and I love it!. Solid, definitely heavier than the original jag bridge. Was an easy drop-in in my 65 jag. Tinkered to perfection in a couple of hours. Radius fits nicely and it did improve the sound - better intonation, less buzzing and artifacts. I notice more of a difference playability-wise It allowed lower action, no fret choking and it the guitar has a much more solid feel (and now I could strum as hard as I can, although it's not much of my thing) . A tad expensive, but an amazing and worty upgrade nonetheless. stoked!!!

[planningtojazz]

What about the tighter feel to the mastery bridge, do you guys like or dislike that?

Do you mean is the Staytrem spacing tighter than the Mastery? They're both the same: 52mm. But both are tighter than the stock spacing of a JM (55mm). I'm used to the smaller spacing from Gibson bridges so I don't notice it at all.

You notice it looking at the string and polepiece alignment. A normal mustang bridge looks right at your neck pickup, and too wide at bridge pickup. These TOM spacings look right at the bridge pickup and too small at the neck pickup. People that keep the jag/JM-bridge on, will probably use the multiple grooves on it to set the strings somewhere inbetween, I guess.

i was actually referring to string tension. maybe its just me but it seems to feel more spring like when i strum and bend notes. it kinda loses that snappy feeling that im used to with my mustang bridge. does anyone else notice this or am i crazy? im considering staytrem heavily because of this aspect and the potential intonation problems.( havnt gotten it to intonate yet going to see if my tech can do it.) but id lie if i said i didnt like the added sustain and harmonics the mastery offers.


edit: im also going to experiment with string gauges for a more balanced tension when i play. but im pretty sure i noticed this difference between the two bridges, mastery and mustang. with the same exact strings left on the guitar.

[parry]

Bumpin' the Straytrem thread for another great transaction with John.
A Bass VI bridge was added to the family, today (two more on my JM and Jag) and man... is it solid!
It shipped quick - a little over a week, from the UK to Canada - and John has always gone the extra mile to answer any questions.



Can't wait to get it on the VI with the new flats

[caliban]

F'in cool

[iswope]

This is such a whiney statement but the one thing that bothers me about StayTrem is how they take the damned site down whenever they aren't processing orders. Could you at least leave the site up so I can browse around and look at it? Sheesh!

[caliban]

This is such a whiney statement but the one thing that bothers me about StayTrem is how they take the damned site down whenever they aren't processing orders. Could you at least leave the site up so I can browse around and look at it? Sheesh!

I've also noticed that before, pretty strange.

[setyaback]

Yeah, I was pretty bummed when I finally got my late freelance check, cashed it, threw away $3 to get it transferred to my Paypal account, excitedly went to my computer to order the bridge I'd been lusting after for months, only to find out I'd have to wait 2 more weeks. So I bought one the day they opened back up, and the next day a used one came up here on OSG.booooooo

all complaints aside... got my bridge installed in my BTJM this morning and hotDAMN. What an improvement. After I took the stock bridge out I was looking at the two side-by-side. The improvements are so obvious, every single issue that I had with my old bridge is solved. Kind of remarkable to think that Fender have been making these guitars for like 75 years and they never thought of making these improvements.

The only thing I notice is that the Staytrem has a bit more wobble-play than the stock one did. The stock bridge was pretty snug in the thimbles, this one is definitely more of a rocker. I put it through its paces and I don't see any problem with that at all, hasn't affected anything really. It's just much easier to wobble back and forth with my fingers, etc. I don't have my trem bar here, but I'm looking forward to seeing if this makes the trem action improve at all. The strings should be more free to move over the saddles.

A+ on the Staytrem from me

[Brock the Mod]

You know, Ive been pretty happy with my Mastery bridge. I love the sound I get from it and yeah, of course sustain. It got hyped out for good reason, and I never regretted spending the money on it. HOWEVER this thread has made me realize all the cons that I have with it and the staytrem sounds like a remedy! I'm sick of messing with it and it getting thrown off whenever I use the trem or let it sit for weeks. The fact that the string spacing is tighter and adjusted to the radius makes me incredibly want to sell the mastery for one (and the staytrem arm which is another plus). Im still 50/50 though. Should I get rid of a bridge that I like for a bridge that works better and is more set it and forget it? It sounds like laziness to me but, fuck, Jazzmasters/Jaguars need a bridge that works efficiently if you gig a lot. The company sounds like it could go out at anytime.

[parry]

I was in the same boat. It took me a few months, but I bit the bullet. Now, I have them on both guitars, one in the drawer - waiting for a guitar to come - and I haven't looked back, NOR (most importantly) have I ever had issues with them.

[setyaback]

You know, Ive been pretty happy with my Mastery bridge. I love the sound I get from it and yeah, of course sustain. It got hyped out for good reason, and I never regretted spending the money on it. HOWEVER this thread has made me realize all the cons that I have with it and the staytrem sounds like a remedy! I'm sick of messing with it and it getting thrown off whenever I use the trem or let it sit for weeks. The fact that the string spacing is tighter and adjusted to the radius makes me incredibly want to sell the mastery for one (and the stay trem which is another plus). Im still 50/50 though. Should I get rid of a bridge that I like for a bridge that works better and is more set it and forget it? The company sounds like it could go out at anytime.

I live in Minneapolis, so I could've bought a Mastery in my own backyard. The Staytrem was worth the wait in my opinion, both for the money saved and the simplicity of setup. I just loosened the strings up enough to get the stock bridge out, popped the Staytrem in, brought the strings up to tension and raised the bridge to a comfortable height for me. Done. I didn't even have to intonate, it was almost perfect up and down the entire neck. There's not a single buzz on my guitar, and that's never been the case on any JM I've owned.

I will concede that you don't get that woody sustain from a Staytrem that you do from a Mastery, but that's a sacrifice I was willing to make.