E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

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E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by bjornsynneby » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:01 am

Hello offset guitarists! I have one question about E-E distance of tremolo units. I have a Hosco jazzmaster trem unit with a 51 mm (~2”) E-E distance and I am thinking of upgrading to an Fender american trem unit. My question is: will the E-E distance be larger than 51 mm? I have searched the interwebs and found nothing about this...

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by timtam » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:25 pm

It's not the AVRI or Am Pro trem (likely the same trem just with different collets/arms), but the (Korean-made) Classic Player trem's (0076232049) E-E spacing is a fraction under 57mm.
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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by pawnzito » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:51 pm

My AVRI measures about 55mm.

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by alexpigment » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:09 pm

The good news is that there is some fudge room. You don't really need to match the trem and bridge string spacing (and in fact, you rarely do). Just make sure they're within 3-4mm and you should be fine.

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by bjornsynneby » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:49 pm

Thank you very much! My bridge is E to E 55 mm so perhaps some buzz will disappear with an AVRI trem even if the difference is within this range.

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by timtam » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:28 pm

You can run into odd string spacing issues with narrow MIJ trems and some bridge saddle / pickup pole / neck spacings, like this one I saw recently ...
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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by jorri » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:50 am

I was pretty sure the MIJ trek was causing low E to pop out and buzz when used a stock bridge. Just extra force to the side where not wanted, so I've always tilted the saddle in as much as the force is 'redirected down'(now modified mustang type).

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by bjornsynneby » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:25 am

That’s a good tip! Another good argument to change back to the stock bridge IMO. I’m using a mustang bridge now and the E strings are angled sideways which in my case gives a buzzy tone to the thin E string.

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by jorri » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:19 am

bjornsynneby wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:25 am
That’s a good tip! Another good argument to change back to the stock bridge IMO. I’m using a mustang bridge now and the E strings are angled sideways which in my case gives a buzzy tone to the thin E string.
Helps spacing too. I always find (on any guitar almost) the E is closer than others. I do thumb-over playing.. It will make it wider.

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by Lost In Autumn » Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:09 am

I've used 9.5" radius mustang saddles with Squier 52mm bridges to good effect, it's the best of both worlds, and roughly equivalent to the AM Pro bridge at a fraction of the cost. I find that the wider spacing of the American bridges puts the e strings closer to the end of the neck than I'd prefer.

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by andy_tchp » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:44 pm

bjornsynneby wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:49 pm
Thank you very much! My bridge is E to E 55 mm so perhaps some buzz will disappear with an AVRI trem even if the difference is within this range.
Hi. I just measured my [2] AVRI assemblies. One from a ~2001 AVRI Jaguar, the other was purchased new in 2010.

Measuring from

* Distance between the centre of both 'E' string ball ends: 55.21mm and 55.20mm.

* The 'string' side where the windings start 'E'-'e' : 55.18mm and 55.20mm.


Pretty consistent, suspect any variations are down to the guy operating the verniers ;)
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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by bjornsynneby » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:37 am

Great! Thank you. So it seems the AVRI units are little wider than the MIJ’s.

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by bjornsynneby » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:23 am

Lost In Autumn wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:09 am
I've used 9.5" radius mustang saddles with Squier 52mm bridges to good effect, it's the best of both worlds,
So, that’s a very good tip. Like a staytrem! One question comes to me: where can one find Squier 52mm bridges? - only ebay?

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by Lost In Autumn » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:30 am

EBay or Reverb

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Re: E-E distance of jazzmaster tailpiece

Post by andy_tchp » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:07 pm

No problems.
bjornsynneby wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:37 am
So it seems the AVRI units are little wider than the MIJ’s.
Most certainly. This is apparent even in photos, you can see the outer strings angle inwards after clearing the bridge on Fender Japan assemblies.
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