getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Talk about modding or building your own guitar from scratch.
User avatar
Doorslams
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 59
Joined: Mon May 05, 2008 10:59 pm

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by Doorslams » Wed May 28, 2008 1:43 pm

I hate MIJ guitars but I want yours! I didn't know they had a trem? Does it work well? I've never played one, it it different than a baritone?

User avatar
hieronymous
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 111
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:25 pm
Location: northern California
Contact:

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by hieronymous » Thu May 29, 2008 3:51 am

Doorslams wrote: I hate MIJ guitars but I want yours! I didn't know they had a trem? Does it work well? I've never played one, it it different than a baritone?
I hope the trem works OK - I never knew how to set it up until recently, thanks to this forum! I'm waiting for the pickguard, which just shipped yesterday and should be here within a day or so!!!  :?

The Bass VI is sometimes referred to as a baritone, but personally I like to think of it as a short-scale bass with two extra high strings - it's tuned E-E, the bottom four strings being the same as a bass guitar. But there are a lot of different ways to use it, so another person might have a different answer.
4 strings, 6 strings, 8 strings, more! (basses, that is)

User avatar
hieronymous
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 111
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:25 pm
Location: northern California
Contact:

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by hieronymous » Thu May 29, 2008 11:57 am

Well, I have some good news and some bad news:

The good news is, the pickguard finally arrived!  ;D

The bad news is, it doesn't fit.  :'(

I'm going to send it back, maybe send a tracing of mine so they can try again. I sent an email to pickguardian too - I really want this to work, so I'm willing to order two...
4 strings, 6 strings, 8 strings, more! (basses, that is)

User avatar
sookwinder
Mods
Mods
Posts: 11179
Joined: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:47 pm
Location: Melbourne Australia

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by sookwinder » Thu May 29, 2008 5:19 pm

For what ever reason, the Bass VI template that Pickguardian uses for their bass VI guards , has the holes for the bridge feet in the wrong location (I assume this is what you were referring to when you say the guard doesn't fit)

Everybody that has built up a USCG bass VI or those who have fitted a new pickguarduian guard to their vintage bass VI have had to sand out the holes.  You can see what I had to do in this pic below:

Image
relaxing alternative to doing actual work ...

User avatar
hieronymous
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 111
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:25 pm
Location: northern California
Contact:

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by hieronymous » Fri May 30, 2008 12:17 pm

If I do get a pickguard from pickguardian.com, I'm going to send him in a tracing. I don't really see in your picture where you did the sanding.

When I took off the original pickguard, I discovered something interesting:
Image

They didn't do the red part of the sunburst underneath the guard! Makes me kind of wish the whole thing was tobacco burst with just the two colors...
4 strings, 6 strings, 8 strings, more! (basses, that is)

User avatar
sookwinder
Mods
Mods
Posts: 11179
Joined: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:47 pm
Location: Melbourne Australia

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by sookwinder » Fri May 30, 2008 5:01 pm

hieronymous wrote: I don't really see in your picture where you did the sanding.
the two holes to allow the guard to sit over the bridge leg thimbles need to be elongated. see how you can see blue between the thimble and the edge of the hole.  I did not need to sand much on my guard , but others (depending upon placement of the guard relative to the neck pocket) have had to widen the holes by up to 50%
relaxing alternative to doing actual work ...

User avatar
hieronymous
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 111
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:25 pm
Location: northern California
Contact:

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by hieronymous » Fri May 30, 2008 5:04 pm

sookwinder wrote:
hieronymous wrote: I don't really see in your picture where you did the sanding.
the two holes to allow the guard to sit over the bridge leg thimbles need to be elongated. see how you can see blue between the thimble and the edge of the hole.   I did not need to sand much on my guard , but others (depending upon placement of the guard relative to the neck pocket) have had to widen the holes by up to 50%
Got it - as soon as you said what it was I could see it right away. Unfortunately, the guard that I got is really tweaked compared to the reality of the bass I have. They said they had a template for a Japanese reissue, but the one I got needs way more than just widening the bridge post holes. It's frustrating because parts of it fit just right, others are way off...
4 strings, 6 strings, 8 strings, more! (basses, that is)

User avatar
concrete life
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 53
Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 10:36 am

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by concrete life » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:31 am

beautiful guitar, man. enjoy.

User avatar
hieronymous
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 111
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:25 pm
Location: northern California
Contact:

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by hieronymous » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:18 am

Finally got a pickguard on! Ended up sending a tracing in to Pickguardian, even so it wasn't perfect - had to file the area by the control plate (the volume & tone one) and widen the holes for the bridge posts a bit. A couple of the screw holes don't fit - any advice on that?

Next step is to string it up and try and get the bridge set!
4 strings, 6 strings, 8 strings, more! (basses, that is)

User avatar
Stereordinary
Expat
Expat
Posts: 10672
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:55 am
Location: Vancouver, WA USA

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by Stereordinary » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:24 am

hieronymous wrote:Image
Wow!  I can't believe how good a VI looks without a pickguard.  ???  Interesting about the burst though, I wonder if they're all like that.
Rhoney Guitars, 2010-2017, 2025?

User avatar
woster
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 211
Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:44 pm

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by woster » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:59 am

stereordinary wrote: Wow!  I can't believe how good a VI looks without a pickguard.   ???  Interesting about the burst though, I wonder if they're all like that.
I just found a picture of my own CIJ Bass VI without the pickguard, and it has the same burst thing. I never noticed that before   :-[

BTW hieronymous, looks like we're after the same thing. I didn't like the tort guard on mine either, although for a CIJ it's not that bad. I got a black guard from the French guy a couple of weeks ago, and it's a perfect fit. First I was thinking of refinishing mine too, since I'm a bit fed up with sunburst. But the black guard sparks the burst back to life again and really brings out the reds. So I think I'll stick with the original finish. It even looks better in real life than in the dressing room!

Image

edit: I'm getting a decent camera in a month or two, so I wont be able to take pictures of my VI + black pickguard until then  :(
Last edited by woster on Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
hieronymous
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 111
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:25 pm
Location: northern California
Contact:

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by hieronymous » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:41 am

Interesting to see another one with the pickguard off! Great minds think alike, eh?  8)

I will post pictures when I get a chance. Hope to do some recording with it too...
4 strings, 6 strings, 8 strings, more! (basses, that is)

User avatar
fenderjapan
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1047
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:20 am
Location: Kiruna, Sweden

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by fenderjapan » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:01 am

stereordinary wrote: Interesting about the burst though, I wonder if they're all like that.
Its like that on my cij jag too ;)

User avatar
hieronymous
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 111
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:25 pm
Location: northern California
Contact:

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by hieronymous » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:54 pm

Just a quick update, haven't had a chance to record or take pictures - put the pickguard on, two of the screws don't fit, but I'm going to worry about that later. Put new strings on - LaBella roundwounds - the high E is just barely long enough, it doesn't quite make one complete winding - I was expecting this though because someone posted that here a while ago. It's close enough, wonder if the flats are the same? Anyway, I put the strings on, let them stretch in, then clamped down on the tremolo tension arm, but couldn't get it closer than a half-step away from where it is with the trem-lock engaged. But it's still better than before - at least now the low-E string saddle isn't hitting the string! The intonation is off on a couple of strings - maybe the D & B strings - will work on that tomorrow.

Impressions: the LaBellas weren't bright at all, despite being new roundwounds - found that kind of surprising, but not necessarily a bad thing - I was already kind of regretting not getting flats. The string tension is still kind of tight - I was hoping it might be a bit looser, but I can live with it. The string spacing is definitely tighter than I'm used to - going to have to practice!
4 strings, 6 strings, 8 strings, more! (basses, that is)

User avatar
hieronymous
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 111
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:25 pm
Location: northern California
Contact:

Re: getting a reissue MIJ Bass VI up & running - finally

Post by hieronymous » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:37 am

Finally took a picture with the new pickguard:

Image

Except for the reflection of the case interior in the control plates, I think this picture came out pretty well - a single incandescent bulb for the lighting. I've been reading a lot here recently about people yellowing/aging their white plastic, and at first the pickup covers bugged me a bit, but then I got over it...
4 strings, 6 strings, 8 strings, more! (basses, that is)

Post Reply