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Talking on Facebook with some people it seems I can't seem to find anywhere that does 24 to 25.5 conversion necks.

I'd love a jaguar but know I can't handle the scale. So, can these be built/does anyone build them?

stereordinary wrote:I've also made a 25.227" scale conversion neck for Jaguar.

i think that Stereordinary makes them :s

temucin wrote:

stereordinary wrote:I've also made a 25.227" scale conversion neck for Jaguar.

i think that Stereordinary makes them :s

like I said Johnny

Yeah, I could make either one of those necks. I think the 25.5" one has to have an overhang, or something, I can't remember what it looks like. But we've all talked about this before.

stereordinary wrote:Yeah, I could make either one of those necks. I think the 25.5" one has to have an overhang, or something, I can't remember what it looks like. But we've all talked about this before.

Like an overhang to get all the frets on there?

Yeah, like they do on the 22 fret Strats. I can't remember, but I think it was a choice between either having an excessive amount of space past the last fret, or having an overhang to accommodate an additional fret, so that it doesn't look funny.

I'll look in to it later tonight and try to post some pictures.

*Writes not to self.*

makes sense. If, when Ive got some money, I can find a loaded Jag body or a cheap MIJ Jag, I will have to seriously consider this as i'd love a jag but in a proper scale

stereordinary wrote:Yeah, I could make either one of those necks. I think the 25.5" one has to have an overhang, or something, I can't remember what it looks like. But we've all talked about this before.

Paul, what would something like that cost?

I don't think I'm allowed to answer that question in a non-For Sale thread.

I can say that my base price for necks is higher than what you would expect to pay for a USACG/Musikraft/Warmoth/et. al., neck, but lower than what you would probably be quoted by many other luthiers. I'm trying to place my business where there's a perceived void in the market. Of course I can make all kinds of necks, and anyone willing to pay what I ask (or offering up a trade I can't refuse ) can get any kind of a neck they want from me. But I'm trying to be the best source for things that are unique and not available from the usual aftermarket places, while still staying affordable. I don't mean to take any business away from other professional luthiers, but if I'm doing necks for less than they are, that should free them up to focus on guitars that they want to build. Likewise the more options that USACG/Musikraft/Warmoth/et. al. offer, the more that frees me up to focus on my own designs.

So I can make a Jazzmaster neck, or a Jazzmaster body, and I will ask for more for it than you could get virtually an identical product from USACG. Why do I do that? Because that's what I need to to stay in business. I have no beefs with someone getting a quote from me, then turning around and buying a body from AllParts. Oftentimes people simply don't have the money and they figure they can mod it themselves, or maybe they're just wanting something standard anyway. But you can't go to USACG and GuitarMill and ask for every option. They have a lot of options and there's a lot you can get, but sometimes there's limits. I usually can't beat those guys' prices on the stuff that we both offer. But occasionally there are things that they just won't do. At least not without setup fees that make it ridiculously expensive. That's where I come in. Many luthiers don't just make parts, they only make whole guitars, and sometimes only their own styles. And if you can find a luthier willing to make you just a custom body or neck only, it might be pretty expensive. I'm sure there's other guys like me, who fall somewhere in the middle, but I don't know of any.

What options do I offer? Anything you ask for. I haven't been asked to make something that I couldn't make yet. There are always concerns and setup details that I will often share with my customers (not financially, just in the sense of telling them up front what I'm dealing with), and those factors can sometimes result in the commission never moving past the quote stage. But I'm in this to make money and I'm not turning down work. I think I may have a reputation around here as being over-priced. I can't say that I understand why that is. I'm not trying to be a "cheap alternative" and I'm not trying to be the "boutique option." I make some unique products, and I'm always willing to take on other unique work (like a 25.5" scale conversion neck for a Jaguar ), and I try to keep things affordable. I'm getting faster at what I do, and the quality of my work is steadily rising. I'm also talking to some local guys about teaming up to add custom finishing and even pickups to my guitars, as I'm hoping to start selling more of my original designs as ready-to-play instruments. Some people know what they want, and to them money is of less importance. They may need to scrimp and save like anyone, and they may not have high-paying jobs. But when it comes to finally owning that dream guitar, they are willing to wait and to pay whatever it costs. Those are the people I want to do business with, and I will make them very happy indeed.

stereordinary wrote: I think I may have a reputation around here as being over-priced.

I hope not, that's a really unfair thing to think of an kind of artist's work; it's their art, it's up to them to decide what it's worth, not you.

I wouldn't say you're 'overpriced' Paul. In fact, I thought the quote you gave me for that idea we were bouncing, with the headstock veneer etc, was more than reasonable for a full custom job! I wouldn't worry about that and I still intend to use you for something when I have the $$ spare

Thanks, both of you. I guess I just have to wonder sometimes when I do dozens of quotes every week, then go a whole month without any new commissions, and worry that I might have to sell my Jazzmaster to pay bills and keep my business alive.

Oh, and...

http://paulrhoney.com/2010/09/conversio ... e-fenders/

Wrote that shit up all nice-like for you.

Okay, so here's a thought. How plausible would a 25.5 or 24 to Bass IV or Jag baritone conversion neck be? That would put it at a ridiculously high amount of frets as oppose to a ridiculously low amount, correct?

Well, 25.5 to 28.625 and 24 to 27.something are 24 fret necks. So yeah, you'd have like 28-30 frets and they'd be pretty much unusable. At least it'd look less weird than having no frets past 24 I guess.

A 21 fret 27" baritone to a 24 fret 30ish inch short scale bass would be more realistic.

A 32" Bass VI...now THAT would be interesting.

Keegan wrote:Well, 25.5 to 28.625 and 24 to 27.something are 24 fret necks. So yeah, you'd have like 28-30 frets and they'd be pretty much unusable. At least it'd look less weird than having no frets past 24 I guess.

24 isn't bad, that's what performer basses have. 30 FRETS! Yeah!

There was a luthiers convention at my school last fall and there was a tele this guy had made that had some absurd number of frets; he assured me it was playable... I wasn't so sure.