NGD 70's SG

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Re: NGD Lawsuit 70's SG

Post by pad » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:19 am

kosmonautmayhem wrote:Super cool! Also love the body top contours.

This reminds me I have a very similar SG shaped guitar under a bed in pieces. I really need to get that thing together.

Looks like the same exact neck as yours. Mine is branded "Buddy"! Lol
oh man! that could be a neat couple :?
me as a father would be glad to let your marry my sg-daughter
Con-Tiki! wrote:it is cool.
a lot of those chrome pickups are actually singles, disguised as HB's. that could explain your impression of them.

aria's and conrads and a bunch of others used them.
when ill change strings, i think she needs a little thicker gauge ill get them apart and let you know :)
cmatthes wrote:Neat guitar, but in no way a "Lawsuit" guitar!
why that? because its not a close copy?

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Re: NGD Lawsuit 70's SG

Post by HorseyBoy » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:44 pm

pad wrote:
cmatthes wrote:Neat guitar, but in no way a "Lawsuit" guitar!
why that? because its not a close copy?
The term "Lawsuit guitar" gets thrown around a lot but, basically, not every Japanese guitar from the 1970s is a "Lawsuit" guitar. There was one lawsuit, Norlin (Gibson) v. Elger (Ibanez) in 1977, and it was settled out of court. Ibanez, Greco, Tokai, Burny and Fernandez are the best-known brands of the era, and they made some amazingly good guitars that were near to exact copies of Gibson and Fender guitars. That's the key: near to exact. Your SG has a bolt-on neck and a funky carved top. No one would ever mistake it for a Gibson. That doesn't mean it's not awesome. ;)

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Re: NGD Lawsuit 70's SG

Post by pad » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:48 am

HorseyBoy wrote:
pad wrote:
why that? because its not a close copy?
The term "Lawsuit guitar" gets thrown around a lot but, basically, not every Japanese guitar from the 1970s is a "Lawsuit" guitar. There was one lawsuit, Norlin (Gibson) v. Elger (Ibanez) in 1977, and it was settled out of court. Ibanez, Greco, Tokai, Burny and Fernandez are the best-known brands of the era, and they made some amazingly good guitars that were near to exact copies of Gibson and Fender guitars. That's the key: near to exact. Your SG has a bolt-on neck and a funky carved top. No one would ever mistake it for a Gibson. That doesn't mean it's not awesome.
oh okay, than the term seems wrong! :)

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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by pad » Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:20 am

hey guys, the bridge that has been on there is a jazz bridge and moves around.
it hast been drilled for bridge posts but im not sure what to buy.

can anybody help me?

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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by budda12ax7 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:50 pm

Really nice.....

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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by pad » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:30 pm

budda12ax7 wrote:Really nice.....
thanks
but no one?

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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by spiffy chap » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:47 pm

pad wrote:hey guys, the bridge that has been on there is a jazz bridge and moves around.
it hast been drilled for bridge posts but im not sure what to buy.

can anybody help me?
No way to know what size the bridge posts holes are. You have to measure and make sure the bridge is gonna be able to intonate. You also need to know what bridge you wanna use. Nashville, ABR, etc.

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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by pad » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:26 am

spiffy chap wrote:
pad wrote:hey guys, the bridge that has been on there is a jazz bridge and moves around.
it hast been drilled for bridge posts but im not sure what to buy.

can anybody help me?
No way to know what size the bridge posts holes are. You have to measure and make sure the bridge is gonna be able to intonate. You also need to know what bridge you wanna use. Nashville, ABR, etc.
is there anything on the web that talks about pro and cons?
don't have a mind about bridges so far.

might stand for roller bridges because they go pretty good for offsets.

A BIG PRO would be a bridge cover

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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by Drill » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:02 am

That's one of the cons on the vintage japanese guitars, sometimes, it's hard to find replacement parts.
You have to measure the one you have, and search what are the standard measurements (see metric and inch).
See what you can do with what you have (maybe you can fit new saddles in your old bridge), and if it is worth to go the custom way (this means, drill the guitar for new holes and fill the old ones).

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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by pad » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:27 am

Drill wrote:That's one of the cons on the vintage japanese guitars, sometimes, it's hard to find replacement parts.
You have to measure the one you have, and search what are the standard measurements (see metric and inch).
See what you can do with what you have (maybe you can fit new saddles in your old bridge), and if it is worth to go the custom way (this means, drill the guitar for new holes and fill the old ones).
The bridge isn't completely wrong, it intonates realy good and sounds sweet.
the only issue is that it moves around, maybe its the easiest way to fix it to fit some bridge posts under it?
(just thinking)

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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by MKR » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:49 am

seems like the bridge is a lot like the ones on gretsch hollowbodies as in it's not actually attached to the guitar, correct?

If so a lot of people just put some double sided take under those bridges. another home fix is to put some violin resin under the bridge (that's what i did as my wife has a violin). no biggy.

I would defniitely NOT put in bridge posts.

cool guitar by the way.

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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by crianlarich » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:49 am

Hey, I joined the club!
it still is with a mockup of a pickguard. So it used to be more common to have them in two pieces? (Separate tenon piece?)
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any ideas where it might have been built? hardware is marked "Jin Ah".
what's odd? 25,5" scale! I did a full pocket shim, neck straightness still isn't great, but o.k.
will move strap button from back to corner neck screw anyway - heavy + neck dive is quite annoying.
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Re: NGD 70's SG

Post by Veitchy » Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:09 pm

Swoopy body. German carve. Bigsby.

I dig it.

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