Under the Hood of Pre-CBS Offsets... (Vintage Markings)
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Under the Hood of Pre-CBS Offsets... (Vintage Markings)
On the back of my bridge blackpup of my beloved jazzmaster, there's a 3 written. Anybody knows what this means?
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
Do I have to post a pic?
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
It'd be easier if you told us what kind of Jazzmaster it is (Vintage, post- or pre-1965, American reissue, Japanese reissue, Mexican Classic Player or Blacktop, Squier JMJM or VM et cetera) and if the pickups are original to that guitar or not.
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
Vintage?
It's actually a cursive E that you're looking at upside down, it stands for Esper.
He or she signed guards too but with the full Esper... and the E looks exactly the same as the ones I've seen on pickups.
It's actually a cursive E that you're looking at upside down, it stands for Esper.
He or she signed guards too but with the full Esper... and the E looks exactly the same as the ones I've seen on pickups.
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
Ah ok. So it's my favorite guitar. A '58/59 jazzmaster with gold anodized pick guard. I love that guitar. The neck is spectacular.
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
It really looks like a number 3.fullerplast wrote:Vintage?
It's actually a cursive E that you're looking at upside down, it stands for Esper.
He or she signed guards too but with the full Esper... and the E looks exactly the same as the ones I've seen on pickups.
Let me try to upload a pic.
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
I know what you're describing, lots of black bobbin pickups have it. Yes, it DOES look like a 3.
However, I've always assumed its an E because it looks exactly like the unusual way Esper writes it in his signature on the back of the guards he wired. I can't think of any reason a 3 would make sense, and it's too much of a coincidence that it looks just like Esper's E. In fact, some gold guards just have a big loopy curvy E and not the whole signature. I think it was just Esper's thing.
I've seen other names and initials on pickups, but never any number that wasn't part of a date or anything else.
There's probably no way of knowing 100%, so if you want to call it a 3, have a nut. I'm just trying to answer the question since I wondered the same thing, looked around, and came to this conclusion.
However, I've always assumed its an E because it looks exactly like the unusual way Esper writes it in his signature on the back of the guards he wired. I can't think of any reason a 3 would make sense, and it's too much of a coincidence that it looks just like Esper's E. In fact, some gold guards just have a big loopy curvy E and not the whole signature. I think it was just Esper's thing.
I've seen other names and initials on pickups, but never any number that wasn't part of a date or anything else.
There's probably no way of knowing 100%, so if you want to call it a 3, have a nut. I'm just trying to answer the question since I wondered the same thing, looked around, and came to this conclusion.
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
Thanks bro. Appreciate it.fullerplast wrote:I know what you're describing, lots of black bobbin pickups have it. Yes, it DOES look like a 3.
However, I've always assumed its an E because it looks exactly like the unusual way Esper writes it in his signature on the back of the guards he wired. I can't think of any reason a 3 would make sense, and it's too much of a coincidence that it looks just like Esper's E. In fact, some gold guards just have a big loopy curvy E and not the whole signature. I think it was just Esper's thing.
I've seen other names and initials on pickups, but never any number that wasn't part of a date or anything else.
There's probably no way of knowing 100%, so if you want to call it a 3, have a nut. I'm just trying to answer the question since I wondered the same thing, looked around, and came to this conclusion.
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
You're welcome.
I just looked for a pic of black bobbin pickup with the E/3 and couldn't find one. I did find 2 of Esper's signed guards though:
![Image](http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8250/010axl.jpg)
Sometimes on the 3/E on the pickups, there is this loop in the center like on his E here:
![Image](https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aDGk_1EY4bw/UQ1iMg_FI8I/AAAAAAAADzQ/1JFTasOKJio/s640/IMG_0071.JPG)
And sometimes there is a loop at the top, a little curlicue.
I'm also looking for a guard that just has the E like the pickups do. I know I've seen that before,
Feel free to go ahead and post yours when you have a chance!
I just looked for a pic of black bobbin pickup with the E/3 and couldn't find one. I did find 2 of Esper's signed guards though:
![Image](http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8250/010axl.jpg)
Sometimes on the 3/E on the pickups, there is this loop in the center like on his E here:
And sometimes there is a loop at the top, a little curlicue.
I'm also looking for a guard that just has the E like the pickups do. I know I've seen that before,
Feel free to go ahead and post yours when you have a chance!
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
It wasn't until now i realized that the answer was right underneath my nose all the time
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
It seems "Mell" worked on my guitar. Is that a known name?
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
I finally decided to figure out how to post pics. Well here's another one. I LOVE this guitar. The bridge pup just died on me. So I had to have it recoiled. Cried a little...but then again, just a few more days and I can play it again.
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Re: Why is there 3 written on the back of my bridge blackpup
Nice JM!
Yes, Mell did alot of those gold guards. Curiously sometimes he/she signed it Mel with just one L.
Edit: What was the pic above, the first one you posted? I went to the link and it didn't load.
Yes, Mell did alot of those gold guards. Curiously sometimes he/she signed it Mel with just one L.
Edit: What was the pic above, the first one you posted? I went to the link and it didn't load.
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