Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

indiandysummer · Post by **indiandysummer** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:10 am

I will also jump in and say I have an Oly white JM jag body. It chips very easily. I accidentally bumped it on a power drill that was sitting on the floor when setting it up (not a very hard bump- my AVRI Jazzmaster has easily withstood harder collisions with no noticeable finish damage). It now has about 3 1" long cracks on the bottom/side. After playing it lightly for about 1 year, it has a handful of chips, and also some wear through the forearm contour (can see the wood).

I mean, it looks cool. But it almost chips from looking at it. Maybe that's what they were going for.

Musicman20 · Post by **Musicman20** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:39 am

indiandysummer wrote:I will also jump in and say I have an Oly white JM jag body. It chips very easily. I accidentally bumped it on a power drill that was sitting on the floor when setting it up (not a very hard bump- my AVRI Jazzmaster has easily withstood harder collisions with no noticeable finish damage). It now has about 3 1" long cracks on the bottom/side. After playing it lightly for about 1 year, it has a handful of chips, and also some wear through the forearm contour (can see the wood).

I mean, it looks cool. But it almost chips from looking at it. Maybe that's what they were going for.

Wow...I mean it probably looks cool but that is SOME wear!

Does anyone have any pics of this?

Musicman20 · Post by **Musicman20** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:40 am

mywhitenoise wrote:
Musicman20 wrote:
egosheep wrote:FWIW I had a KO for 6 months and it never got a scratch on it. Seemed like quite a hardy finish.
That is good to know.

The store have said I can can have a full refund/cancellation no problem....I know its a limited colour but if the sherwood green chips and comes off really easy I'd be gutted. I don't mind normal nitro wear, but over a long period (eg years not months).

Does anyone else have a recent model?
You're freaking out over something that has yet to be an issue.

I'm just being careful. I am stupidly careful with my gear and I'm used to Musicman's very deep poly finish, so minor chips from just using it would really wind me up....

Musicman20 · Post by **Musicman20** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:41 am

Ben Logan wrote:I asked Fender about the Sherwood Green Marrguars' finish durability. Here's what they wrote back:

Hello Ben,

The Sherwood Green Jaguar has the same finish as the other color options. It is a Nitrocellulose finish. Which is a thinner finish. So it does chip, crack and wear more that a guitar with a poly finish. It would be under warranty if it is a manufacturing defect. The warranty would not cover wear and tear.

Best Regards

Paul Levesque

I thought this might be the case. It will look awesome but I like my expensive gear to look new until its had honest wear of a a few years at least.

daCod · Post by **daCod** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:06 pm

this ^ is what my 65 AVRI jag will be like. i tried to photograph it already w/o success but you can see the wood grain lacquer lines already starting to 'pop' through the sonic blue finish. not that i'm complaining. it's a thin coat of nitro and to be expected.

the guy who ran the guitar shop back home 'back in the day' (circa 1997/98) was talking about the fender custom shop 'time machine' series when it was just being released. how they were finally doing it right - the NOS finishes not the closet classic or relic finishes. said he remembers strats and teles from when he was growing up cracking and wearing pretty fast if played on a regular basis due to the paint.

there's someone local selling one of these Marr jag's for 1300. has the same chips/nicks/scars as mentioned...

mywhitenoise · Post by **mywhitenoise** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:23 pm

Musicman20 wrote:I thought this might be the case. It will look awesome but I like my expensive gear to look new until its had honest wear of a a few years at least.

How much did you pay for it? Did you order online, or in store? I have a K0 finish, but would sell it and buy a Sherwood if the price were reasonable.

Musicman20 · Post by **Musicman20** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:31 pm

mywhitenoise wrote:
Musicman20 wrote:I thought this might be the case. It will look awesome but I like my expensive gear to look new until its had honest wear of a a few years at least.
How much did you pay for it? Did you order online, or in store? I have a K0 finish, but would sell it and buy a Sherwood if the price were reasonable.

I'm in the UK....haven't got it yet. I'm 50:50 at the mo what to do...arghhh.

mywhitenoise · Post by **mywhitenoise** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:21 pm

Musicman20 wrote:
mywhitenoise wrote:
Musicman20 wrote:I thought this might be the case. It will look awesome but I like my expensive gear to look new until its had honest wear of a a few years at least.
How much did you pay for it? Did you order online, or in store? I have a K0 finish, but would sell it and buy a Sherwood if the price were reasonable.
I'm in the UK....haven't got it yet. I'm 50:50 at the mo what to do...arghhh.

Keep it.

indiandysummer · Post by **indiandysummer** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:08 pm

Musicman20 wrote:
indiandysummer wrote:I will also jump in and say I have an Oly white JM jag body. It chips very easily. I accidentally bumped it on a power drill that was sitting on the floor when setting it up (not a very hard bump- my AVRI Jazzmaster has easily withstood harder collisions with no noticeable finish damage). It now has about 3 1" long cracks on the bottom/side. After playing it lightly for about 1 year, it has a handful of chips, and also some wear through the forearm contour (can see the wood).

I mean, it looks cool. But it almost chips from looking at it. Maybe that's what they were going for.

Wow...I mean it probably looks cool but that is SOME wear!

Does anyone have any pics of this?

Even though it is quite delicate/thin, I made it sound worse than it is, probably. I'm not over-protective of my guitars, but I surely don't beat them up either. My chips are all pretty small and don't get picked up by my iPad camera that well. If the finish is a big deal to you, I would ask yourself this question:

Do you want the guitar to look brand new in 5 years?

Regular use will show itself after a while if the finish is like the one on my OLY body. I'm ok with that. These guitars are made to be loved and not babied, IMO.

if you plan go play it occasionally and keep it in a case, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Ben Logan · Post by **Ben Logan** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:12 pm

I could totally deal with the rate at which the ThinSkin series seem to age, based on OSG accounts. But the Marr just wear to quickly for my obsessive compulsive tendencies to deal with. Otherwise, that Sherwoid would be my absolute dream guitar.

That said, cheers to all you Marrguar owners. I admire worn guitars on other players.

Greta · Post by **Greta** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:50 am

I was suprised at the thinness of the finish. I will be betting on it chipping quite easily.

Kylef · Post by **Kylef** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:04 pm

Greta wrote:I was suprised at the thinness of the finish. I will be betting on it chipping quite easily.

This really puts me off getting the one I have pre-ordered. I've already got one relicing Marr, don't need another one.

When I heard horror stories about the Marrs paint chipping, it didn't phase me as I baby my guitars so never thought it would happen to mine. I took it out for one gig, it was by my side all night yet I took it out the case the next morning to polish it and these chips were out the back. I was absolutely distraught about it at first, but now there's a couple of tiny ones on the front. I got over it by thinking once it gets really bad I'll get resprayed in a custom colour. Now I'm wondering whether to make that colour sherwood, this way I'll have a sherwood Marr but in a more durable finish (I have used a finisher a few times I kmow and he's outstanding)

Musicman20 · Post by **Musicman20** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:00 pm

Kylef wrote:
Greta wrote:I was suprised at the thinness of the finish. I will be betting on it chipping quite easily.
This really puts me off getting the one I have pre-ordered. I've already got one relicing Marr, don't need another one.

When I heard horror stories about the Marrs paint chipping, it didn't phase me as I baby my guitars so never thought it would happen to mine. I took it out for one gig, it was by my side all night yet I took it out the case the next morning to polish it and these chips were out the back. I was absolutely distraught about it at first, but now there's a couple of tiny ones on the front. I got over it by thinking once it gets really bad I'll get resprayed in a custom colour. Now I'm wondering whether to make that colour sherwood, this way I'll have a sherwood Marr but in a more durable finish (I have used a finisher a few times I kmow and he's outstanding)

Wow..that finish looks SUPER thin...its a lovely colour and vintage fans will no doubt not agree with me about thin finishes, but if went ahead on the Sherwood and it ended up like that after one gig I'd be distraught..fews years, no problem.

CastrosfriendChe · Post by **CastrosfriendChe** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:30 pm

^ he was clearly chloroformed and this ungodly guitar was passed around through many a hand. He's clearly going through one of the stages of grieving...denial.

Look for the man with the miniature texan belt buckle! (geez I've really been watching too much Twin Peaks of late)

On another note, I found one of these green beauties in the US. Saved a few $$$ there. Though as the aussie dollar drops...it's starting to creep up

Kylef · Post by **Kylef** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:09 am

Musicman20 wrote:
Kylef wrote:
Greta wrote:I was suprised at the thinness of the finish. I will be betting on it chipping quite easily.
Wow..that finish looks SUPER thin...its a lovely colour and vintage fans will no doubt not agree with me about thin finishes, but if went ahead on the Sherwood and it ended up like that after one gig I'd be distraught..fews years, no problem.

Exactly, so you can see my hesitance to jump right in and purchase a sherwood marr without seeing one first. As I said, I baby my guitars and this happened. All my other guitars are in excellent nick after countless gigs, this happened after one. It's weird too as I have no idea how it happened....I have my guitar sitting quite low too, a belt buckle if going to do any damage would be closer to the top cutaway, nowhere near the bottom.

In a way it's what's justifying me buying the sherwood - the oly white would be my gigger, the sherwood a case queen.

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