Re: If I would like to buy a Fender amp that'll break up....Blackface on the way

Jazzprod · Post by **Jazzprod** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:04 am

.....what amp would that be???

I was thinking Bandmaster reverb or Pro reverb or something...

Any tips?

Post by **mezcalhead** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:58 am

They all break up sooner or later .. what sort of volume do you want it to break-up at?

And what sort of Fender - sounds like you're looking for a vintage blackface or silverface? The heads are cheaper than the combos, and the SF Bandmaster Reverb has lots of fans. Personally I like the BF Tremolux if you don't need reverb.

Jazzprod · Post by **Jazzprod** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:49 pm

Sooner I think.... :-\

I'd like the fantasic sound of a super reverb(BF and SF). Both clean and semi-clean.
Is there any head with tremolo which have this sounds AND a overdriven sound(not hi-gain overdrive)??

bubbles_horwitz · Post by **bubbles_horwitz** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:11 pm

a blackface bandmaster should do it if you don't need reverb. if you jump the two channels together, you get great breakup at gigging volumes.
it's a great amp and still fairly cheap.

Jazzprod · Post by **Jazzprod** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:28 am

bubbles_horwitz wrote: a blackface bandmaster should do it if you don't need reverb. if you jump the two channels together, you get great breakup at gigging volumes.
it's a great amp and still fairly cheap.

Can you link the channels together like you do on a Vox amp????

Post by **zhivago** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:43 am

you can definitely do it...I do it on my '65 Tremolux all the time

Jazzprod · Post by **Jazzprod** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:15 am

I scored a 1965 Blackface Bandmaster on German Ebay yesterday!!

It wasn't a bargain but not too expensive either I think. Not compared with Swedish prices anyway since the blackface market is out of proportion here.... 659 Euros and like nothing in shipping!

I've got a pair of RCA blackplates I'm going to throw in there when it arrives

Post by **zhivago** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:22 am

hell yeah!

you're gonna LOVE this one!

fuzzking · Post by **fuzzking** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:56 am

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i haven't even noticed this one! congrats!

DB · Post by DB » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:20 am

zhivago wrote: you can definitely do it...I do it on my '65 Tremolux all the time

Can you explain how? I don't want to blow anything up trying!

Thanks,

DB

Post by **zhivago** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:25 am

DB wrote:
zhivago wrote: you can definitely do it...I do it on my '65 Tremolux all the time
Can you explain how? I don't want to blow anything up trying!

Thanks,

DB

it's very easy

guitar cord goes to input #1 on the normal channel....

then a patch cable goes from input #2 of the normal channel into input #1 of the vibrato channel

then you can mix and match all the volume and tone controls

fuzzking · Post by **fuzzking** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:26 am

DB wrote:
zhivago wrote: you can definitely do it...I do it on my '65 Tremolux all the time
Can you explain how? I don't want to blow anything up trying!

Thanks,

DB

same as with marshalls...

plug guitar in one input (e.g. "normal" channel), and patch the input 2 of that channel to the input of the other channel (e.g. "vibrato" channel) with a normal patch cable.

or vice versa. now you can blend the 2 channels with the 2 volume knobs, because the input signal is splitted and routed to both channels.

hope this is understandable.

edit: sorry, the zhiv was a millisecond faster than me on the reply button!

Post by **Jay** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:28 am

I think this is the same technique that a lot of Marshall users exploit... run a short cable from the input of the normal channel to the vib channel and plug your guitar into the remaining open jack on either. You end up hitting both inputs at once and get some extra gain.

Post by **zhivago** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:29 am

FUZZ_KING wrote:
DB wrote:
zhivago wrote: you can definitely do it...I do it on my '65 Tremolux all the time
Can you explain how? I don't want to blow anything up trying!

Thanks,

DB
same as with marshalls...

plug guitar in one input (e.g. "normal" channel), and patch the input 2 of that channel to the input of the other channel (e.g. "vibrato" channel) with a normal patch cable.

or vice versa. now you can blend the 2 channels with the 2 volume knobs, because the input signal is splitted and routed to both channels.

hope this is understandable.

edit: sorry, the zhiv was a millisecond faster than me on the reply button!

fuzzking · Post by **fuzzking** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:32 am

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