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by Jaded » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:41 pm
...anyone had any experience with them?
I'm considering getting one at the moment as i should be able to get one at nice price.. so i was just wondering if any of you have one or have used them in the past etc.. what do they play like? sound like? you get the general idea
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by JazzBlaster » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:21 pm
great guitar if you can get one cheaply, I'd say they soud a bit mustang duo sonic-ish
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by Jaded » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:02 pm
Thats what i was hoping to hear!
the one i'm looking at seems a reasonable price, just trying to find a way around the import tax is the problem..
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by mjet » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:31 am
JazzBlaster wrote:
great guitar if you can get one cheaply, I'd say they soud a bit mustang duo sonic-ish
David
I agree that they're good value (they're largely ignored by the vintage freaks who will pay hundreds or thousands more for a Strat from the same year) although I would suggest that they're a bit more Stratty in tone. The pickups are essentially Strat pickups and the scale length is 25.5", just like a Strat/Tele. The bodies are a wee bit smaller than a Strat. I like hardtails so for me it was a no-brainer. Nice stuff, though. Many of the black-finished ones have crackle problems (Fender switched to a new supplier apparently and lots bubbled up and turned almost a light blue under the finish) but the red transparent ones seem to be ok.
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by Orang Goreng » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:59 am
Where were these made, BTW? An ex gf of mine used to have what appeared to be an exact a copy of a Lead II, by a brand called "Bird". I always thought it was an odd model to copy, so I wondered if it wasn't simply a rebadged guitar from the same factory that made the Lead II....
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by mjet » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:02 am
Orang Goreng wrote:
Where were these made, BTW? An ex gf of mine used to have what appeared to be an exact a copy of a Lead II, by a brand called "Bird". I always thought it was an odd model to copy, so I wondered if it wasn't simply a rebadged guitar from the same factory that made the Lead II....
There were three models (I, II and III) - they were made between 1979-1982. I have also seen some copies - maybe at the time it was thought that they'd be more popular. Those copies that I saw were Japanese whereas all of the Leads were made in Fullerton factory.
I have a set of the humbuckers that were used in the I and III models - I was thinking about putting them in a Warmoth Jazzmaster as a kind of update to the Jazzblaster layout. I seem to recall hearing that they were actually designed by Seth Lover on a posting over at the FDP by John Page but I'm a bit fuzzy on that now...
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by shadowplay » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:03 am
My third ever guitar (after a Hofner 175 and a slot headstock Kawai like Robin Guthrie). It's still going strong as i'm pals with the buyer. It was a nice player but lack of vibrato meant bye bye.
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by Orang Goreng » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:06 am
mjet wrote:
There were three models (I, II and III) - they were made between 1979-1982. I have also seen some copies - maybe at the time it was thought that they'd be more popular. Those copies that I saw were Japanese whereas all of the Leads were made in Fullerton factory.
Oh, OK. I didn't know the model was that old. I assumed they were 80s Japanese Fenders.
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by mjet » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:38 am
Here's one example of what I was talking about in a previous post about the black finishes having all kinds of problems:
I had one which had this problem - I had it stripped and refinished:

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by del » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:41 am
these are great guitars, imho (and the red finish in photo 1 is tops!). Particularly the dula single coil model which is - as others have indicated - a bit mustang-like in many ways. There are other links in this thread to the neat switching features of this series of guitars, so I'll add just one little tidbit: this is the guitar of choice for Roger Miller, the guitarist for Mission of Burma!
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by eupat » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:02 am
reminds me of a LP doublecut, i like it.
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by mcjt » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:11 am
i saw just recently on eBay that there were several Leads for BIN at $500! i was really surprised! i haven't picked one up in years, but when i worked in guitars back in the 80's, we had Leads in inventory. They were QUITE nice. Good quality, not too heavy. Reconfigured hard tail strats, essentially.
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by Jaded » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:48 am
Thanks for all the replies, they've answered all my questions

so its pretty much what you would get if you crossed a mustang/duo-sonic with a hardtail strat? sounds pretty good to me!
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i saw just recently on eBay that there were several Leads for BIN at $500! i was really surprised! i haven't picked one up in years, but when i worked in guitars back in the 80's, we had Leads in inventory. They were QUITE nice. Good quality, not too heavy. Reconfigured hard tail strats, essentially.
yeah i'm looking at one on ebay, if i can get it over here minus the import charges its a steal at £250!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... Y.m238.lVI
thats the one i'm after, seems pretty good to me

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by mjet » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:56 am
mcjt wrote:
i saw just recently on eBay that there were several Leads for BIN at $500! i was really surprised! i haven't picked one up in years, but when i worked in guitars back in the 80's, we had Leads in inventory. They were QUITE nice. Good quality, not too heavy. Reconfigured hard tail strats, essentially.
I never paid more than $300 for an of mine, but I did need to refinish one or two (I think I've had three pass through). But the all-intact ones might be appreciating a bit in value now that the 1970s stuff is going up in price.
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by shadowplay » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:11 am
mjet, I tend not to get involved in the guitars are gorgeous chat but your pink lead is indeed gorgeous. It's very
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