home studio build!

Get that song on tape! Errr... disk?
User avatar
Larry Mal
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 19949
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:25 pm
Location: Saint Louis, MO

Re: home studio build!

Post by Larry Mal » Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:57 am

postchrist wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:37 am
to speak to the mineral wool thing - it’s a good deal thicker and denser than fiberglass, in my experience. back when i went to school for audio engineering, my professors built their treatment panels out of owens-corning 703 and dense mineral wool, depending on the application. both seem to manage reflections as well as mid-high range isolation significantly better than pink fiberglass in my(limited) experience.
Where did you go to school for audio engineering? I also have a BA in audio engineering.
Back in those days, everyone knew that if you were talking about Destiny's Child, you were talking about Beyonce, LaTavia, LeToya, and Larry.

User avatar
postchrist
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:48 am

Re: home studio build!

Post by postchrist » Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:49 am

Larry Mal wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:57 am
postchrist wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:37 am
to speak to the mineral wool thing - it’s a good deal thicker and denser than fiberglass, in my experience. back when i went to school for audio engineering, my professors built their treatment panels out of owens-corning 703 and dense mineral wool, depending on the application. both seem to manage reflections as well as mid-high range isolation significantly better than pink fiberglass in my(limited) experience.
Where did you go to school for audio engineering? I also have a BA in audio engineering.
cool! i just took community college courses in austin, texas(austin cc), and fort collins, colorado(front range cc). austin was a really neat experience in that my professors were beyond brilliant and the studio was top notch. front range was cool too in that it was much lower budget, so the curriculum centered more around doing the most with what you’ve got. i left a semester short, money was too tight and the idea of school debt was terrifying, although now i feel that was pretty shortsighted. hoping to go back and finish in the next year or two.

where did you study?
lying dog-faced pony soldier.

User avatar
Larry Mal
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 19949
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:25 pm
Location: Saint Louis, MO

Re: home studio build!

Post by Larry Mal » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:20 am

postchrist wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:49 am


where did you study?
I took this degree, although it seems to have changed a bit since I took it.

I could immediately see that I wasn't very likely to get a job in a recording studio, so I took as many video production classes as I could with the idea that I would hopefully be able to get a job doing audio for video in some kind of commercial application.

Some years passed of me doing freelance audio work in tandem with my failing to get into any kind of advertising or production company and restaurant work, and then I decided to try something else. That's how I come to do IT work for a wonderful university, and I'm taking a Master's degree in cyber security so IT work is where I'm going to stay. Frankly I like it every bit as much as I would have liked the other stuff.

But: I am going to set up a nice home studio for myself, my friends and the kids. That'll be the extent of my ambitions, just writing my own music, trying to place that, teaching the kids what I know and recording my buddies.
Back in those days, everyone knew that if you were talking about Destiny's Child, you were talking about Beyonce, LaTavia, LeToya, and Larry.

User avatar
postchrist
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:48 am

Re: home studio build!

Post by postchrist » Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:09 am

all sounds wonderful, @larry. music as a hobby is such a joy. side note, my dad went down a similar path, roughly - got really into audio engineering in his earliest twenties, made music semi-professionally(or at least was very driven) through to his late twenties, and around thirty got really into early software engineering and has remained there his entire life. still finds a lot of happiness in the sciences of music and sound, and spends a lot of his free time engrossed in audio circuitry and studying sound.

uploaded a quick sample jam from the new space. guitars aren’t quite dialed in for intonation, went too heavy on the 8 string’s tremolo, i’m still not great at fretless bass, and the 60 cycle hum is coming through a bit, so apologies all around.

regardless, a general idea of the sort of results i’ve arrived at so far. no processing/effects anywhere save for a very small amount of eq.

https://soundcloud.com/porchweather/jammy
lying dog-faced pony soldier.

User avatar
s_mcsleazy
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 18634
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:30 am
Location: glasgow

Re: home studio build!

Post by s_mcsleazy » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:13 am

i noticed the musicmaster bass in one of the pics....... may i please see more?
offset guitars resident bass player.
'Are you trying to seduce me Mrs Robinson? Or do you just want me to solder a couple of resistors into your Muff?'

User avatar
postchrist
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:48 am

Re: home studio build!

Post by postchrist » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:53 pm

s_mcsleazy wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:13 am
i noticed the musicmaster bass in one of the pics....... may i please see more?
sure!

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 1&t=114141

forget to update with the final pickguard repair but it came out cool. took the frets off too when covid hit, as i’ve always wanted to learn fretless and the truss doesn’t work anyways. really love how it sounds.

has some occasional noise issues, not certain what the root of those are. got it for $400, so between that and the busted truss rod, i expect eventually i’ll get it all running well and still be out the door for less than market.
lying dog-faced pony soldier.

User avatar
Shadoweclipse13
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 12626
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:22 pm
Location: Stuck in the dimension of imagination

Re: home studio build!

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:22 am

Sweet thread! I'm always interested in architecture and acoustic treatment, and how the two work together. Subscribed!

I think I've posted this before, but I found a video where this guy does an acoustic treatment in his basement/music room, using 2 layers of moving blankets. He measures the decibels before and after, and I thought it was fascinating. Also, considering how expensive legitimate studio sound absorption equipment and acoustic foam can be, it's a really affordable option. Sound Proofing My Drum Studio With Acoustic Blankets From Vocal Booth To Go
Pickup Switching Mad Scientist
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=104282&p=1438384#p1438384

User avatar
postchrist
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:48 am

Re: home studio build!

Post by postchrist » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:17 pm

build on hold while i wait for my sister to make her way out here(she studied audio engineering as well). she wants to help with the rest of whatever gets built, so i’ll be anxiously waiting to make more progress til september. there are some updates since the last pics, i’ll take more pictures soon and upload them.

in the meantime, i’ve been reading home recording studio: build it like the pros, by rod gervais. it’s doing an excellent job of schooling me in everything i’ve done wrong so far and setting me up with the tools and ideas to finish it out well.

knocked out a bit of tracking with my bandmate eliot over the past two days. it’s a bit of a house built on sand, lots of the tracking happened before we had any idea of where we wanted to go with it, but it’s an idea of what we’ll be trying to do with the space. feel free to ask questions regarding anything that might intrigue you.

https://soundcloud.com/2223media/gooddays
Last edited by postchrist on Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
lying dog-faced pony soldier.

User avatar
marqueemoon
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 7683
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:37 pm
Location: Seattle

Re: home studio build!

Post by marqueemoon » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:40 pm

This is giving me ideas for sure.

Nothing significant will happen at our place until we remodel the basement.

Thankfully it’s a decent sounding space as-is. Badly needs electrical work though.

User avatar
Dok
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 2264
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:39 pm
Location: Ojai

Re: home studio build!

Post by Dok » Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:40 pm

Those drums sound great! Always the hardest part to record well.
Local milk person

User avatar
preservation
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 3587
Joined: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:49 pm
Location: RVA

Re: home studio build!

Post by preservation » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:00 pm

that studio looks amazing, as if it could be 1974 or now.
some places just have a vibe, and that one has it.

i'm not big on most carpeted rooms, but i bet carpet helps a lot when recording mic'd instruments & vox.

User avatar
Telliot
Mods
Mods
Posts: 12277
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:38 pm
Location: CA

Re: home studio build!

Post by Telliot » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:14 pm

Dok wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:40 pm
Those drums sound great! Always the hardest part to record well.
Came here to say this, well done!!
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

User avatar
postchrist
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:48 am

Re: home studio build!

Post by postchrist » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:43 pm

@dok and telliot, thank you both!
preservation wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:00 pm
that studio looks amazing, as if it could be 1974 or now.
some places just have a vibe, and that one has it.

i'm not big on most carpeted rooms, but i bet carpet helps a lot when recording mic'd instruments & vox.
thank you so much!! my tastes in furniture and such are a bit antiquated. :D it feels cozy! my business partner justin and i will be shooting audiotree/tinydesk type videos in the room eventually so it’s definitely all being done with visual aesthetics in mind.

the carpet is a pain in the ass. we’ve discussed floating hardwoods, still thinking on it. not sure it would be worth the investment on a rented space, but possibly in the future. we’ve joked about astroturf too. :whistle:
lying dog-faced pony soldier.

User avatar
postchrist
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:48 am

Re: home studio build!

Post by postchrist » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:47 pm

recent updates.

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

those slats on the panel will continue along the rest of them, or at least the sides of the room. you can hear a difference already speaking or playing directly at that part of the wall, sounds nice and balanced.

for the resident audio nerds, any ideas on whether a riser(wood on a couple layers of cornings 703) would make any real amount of difference for the downstairs neighbors? seems like it could help with decoupling but it’s a shot in the dark.
lying dog-faced pony soldier.

User avatar
marqueemoon
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 7683
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:37 pm
Location: Seattle

Re: home studio build!

Post by marqueemoon » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:04 am

How do you like the ISA Two? That’s on my short list for new mic pres.

Post Reply