Re: Roland JC120 Jazz Chorus - opinions?

Post by **mynameisjonas** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:57 am

pullover wrote: These guys might make you not want one.
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/m ... 480003.mov

but also a bit of

Post by **daydreamdelay** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:47 am

I can't believe that one guys poodle perm.. seriously what the hell man?!

Superfuzz · Post by **Superfuzz** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:46 am

The guy with the les paul and the strat it's the perfect example of the type of guitarist that I hate...

Post by **Jay** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:28 pm

They seem a bit of a one trick pony to me. Granted they do that one trick exceptionally well, but what happens when you want just a little grit in your sound and the only amp you have is the JC?

holy-reverb!! · Post by **holy-reverb!!** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:39 pm

Superfuzz wrote: The guy with the les paul and the strat it's the perfect example of the type of guitarist that I hate...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbNcI3qn04E

yr gona love this. he is a joke.

Post by **mezcalhead** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:25 pm

daydreamdelay wrote: I can't believe that one guys poodle perm.. seriously what the hell man?!

I kinda wish I could play like that .. then I never would.

I'm referring to poodle perm guy's metal that is .. sounds convincing to me anyway, but his reggae IMHO is awfully uptight .. all the ganja in the world couldn't get that guy to lay back behind the beat.

The guitarist in one of my old bands was an ex-metaller. His control of the guitar was incredible .. luckily during the late 80s he saw the light and started using his skills for good. His main guitar was an A$100 Japanese strat copy (it was his main guitar because he couldn't even get money for it at a pawn shop) and he had one of the best sounds I've ever heard.

Anyway, I'm sidetracking but he was a joy to play with, thus my comment (which is actually a quote from someone, although I can't remember who).

As for the JC-120, well we're talking one hundred twenty watts of stereo madness with dual EQs, obviously.

Superfuzz · Post by **Superfuzz** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:40 am

holy-reverb!! wrote:
Superfuzz wrote: The guy with the les paul and the strat it's the perfect example of the type of guitarist that I hate...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbNcI3qn04E

yr gona love this. he is a joke.

Ok! thanks a lot!, now I'm starting to hate him, he reminds me of that pigs with an orange in the mouth that you can see in the better restourants..puah Jhonny DiMarco..he seems to have some italian roots..PUAH! what a shame.. :-\

pullover · Post by **pullover** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:14 am

Sounds like someone can't get enough of ole J D!

http://www.johnnydemarco.com/boss_roland.html

Trying to stick to topic... I tried one years ago and if I had the money I would have bought it right then. It's loud, it sounds great, it's affordable, and it's reliable. I love my Super Reverb, but I always worry about it breaking or getting stolen.

Maggieo · Post by **Maggieo** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:44 am

I see lots of folks here love the JC-120, but man, I hated the one I had. I couldn't get a decent sound out of it to save my life. It wasn't just the sold state (I love Tech21 amps), it was just something about the timbre of the amp.

Nope. Don't like 'em. No sir. Nope. Did my wife send you?

1946dodge · Post by **1946dodge** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:43 pm

My son got a Jazz Chorus 120 a couple of years ago. There is only one problem with them and it is a big pain in the ass.
The old ones are very well built, but in recent years they have decided to save money by installing PLASTIC crap input jacks.
They break real easy.
I replaced all of them on his amp with metal ones at a cost of about 6 bucks hardware cost.

It pisses me off that Roland would do something as stupid as putting cheap jacks on a 700 dollar unit. The jacks are the achilies heel of the amp since if they break, you can't use the damn thing.

Some suit at Roland, who probably doesnt know anything about quality in electronics probably decided to do this to improve their "bottom line".
Decisions like this can kill a product line.

Many cheaper Fender amps and other models that are in the 100-600 dollar range have made this mistake of putting plastic input jacks often soldered to a circuit board which also in a pain in the ass when you have to replace them with metal ones and solder to the damn cheap circuit board.

In every case that I have ever seen this stupid practice it is always on amps whose manufacture has been outsourced.

I would have gladly paid another 20 bucks for an amp with metal jacks.

Rant over, remember I am a COB (Crabby Old Bastard).

PS that guy on the Boss Pedal add on YOUTUBE needs to have his guitar set on fire,..... while he is playing it.

TheMilford · Post by **TheMilford** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:31 pm

Not to nitpick but... The problem is more with the quality of the plastic jacks and not the fact that they are plastic. Plastic jacks isolate the ground from the chassis, this means lower noise floor.

I wish these manufacturers would use higher quality isolating jacks.

Like these:
http://www.neutrik.com/content/products ... MSDE_audio

1946dodge · Post by **1946dodge** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:45 pm

The problem is more with the quality of the plastic jacks and not the fact that they are plastic. Plastic jacks isolate the ground from the chassis, this means lower noise floor.

I see your point but also I would add that the way they are installed is important too.

If they arent bolted in with some kind of lateral (along the face of the mounting plane) strength then any lateral wiggle motion of the input cord will cause them to losen their attachment to the circuit board too.

If the noise floor is such a problem why are the most expensive amps equipped with only metal jacks?

TheMilford · Post by **TheMilford** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:03 am

"If the noise floor is such a problem why are the most expensive amps equipped with only metal jacks?"

two reasons:

strength and because tube "gurus" think the "old way" is the "only way"

if I designed an expensive amp I would use these:

chrisjedijane · Post by **chrisjedijane** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:19 am

mmmmmmmm.... neutrick jacks....

burker · Post by **burker** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:26 pm

TheMilford wrote: "If the noise floor is such a problem why are the most expensive amps equipped with only metal jacks?"

two reasons:

strength and because tube "gurus" think the "old way" is the "only way"

if I designed an expensive amp I would use these:

oh man.... My first bass was a crappy import headless bass, and the only good thing about it was that it had one of those jacks.... they lock so the cord never will fall out (or am I thinking of something else?)