here comes the Squier offsets.....

[savofenno]

reading this I was wondering: Where the fuck did all this interest in offsets come from in recent years? It's disgusting how bad so many people are clamoring for them anymore. like someone else observed, it's like they'r the les paul/sg of five years ago.

I digress, is there any new cool band that the kids love I'm not aware of that brought these things into vogue. Like, I found them through the Flaming Lips when I was younger and just found lots of people I liked had some sort of offset. But the lips aren't that popular (and don't use offsets really anymore), I know college kids have always loved them (MBV, Sonic Youth etc...), but that can't explain it.



What did it then? And can I reverse it somehow? So that 60's JM's can got back to being "$100 in pawn shops"?

Plus, fender keeps changing the designs citing some mandate of the people who apparently want to use them to play EVH or pop punk (I'll spare the pejorative terms).

I thought offsets were only loved by well... these poor misguided souls. "noise" rockers and confused Elvis Costello enthusiasts (like myself).

It can't, i mean, it just can't be their inherent quality. cause (though some genre's require their quirkier aspects: surf, noise, ambient, whatever)
They're shit guitars if we're honest. Comfy, sure, cool looking, of course, well playing...eh....easy to use/ maintain...nope...well thought out...oh no.

The point is we like them. for whatever weird reason. Or else we'd play the other models that natural selection has propelled to utter dominance

So, my question is. Why all of the sudden are these things the bees knees?.

I have just ordered a Sunburst Fender Squier Jazzmaster, it comes to it`s new home next week, maybe in tuesday. Reason for liking Jazzes & Jags since early 60s is SURF. I was, and still am very fascinated of The Ventures, The Shadows, The Beach Boys, Dick Dale and many others, groups and players i did not know names of back then. I am quite well informed now, thanks to internet. Not all of them played Fender offsets only, but to me surf green Jazzmaster & mint pg is the epitome of SURF!
I will left my Jazzmaster`s finish as it is, something like from 1956-57 Leo was probably already thinking, but it had to wait to summer of `58 when his wood wizards had made their sensational innovation, never heard of before: rosewood fretboard! Joke, joke, naturally, ask Rick & Gibby. But if i can get a Mustang bridge from somewhere, i will surely mount also a suitable Bigsby on it.
Jazzmaster and Jaguar are for me at their best played clean and using some tasteful tremolo and echo & reverb with their a tad fuller, rounder tone than Strat generally.

[Electric Mistress]

The lack of Trem is annoying me more and more, as the Butterscotch has really grown on me.

[dinosaurkale->]

thats pretty much the make it or break it for me
im surprised how many people actually like these

[seenoevil]

I'm most worried about the pickups. Does anyone know if they have rod magnets or a bar. That's the big thing for me. The rest can be remedied with a router. Everyone talks about moding their old jazzies to their preferred more modern spec. I have the opposite problem.

PLUS, I've heard lots of tell here about a vintage series faithful JM/Jag. Is there any evidence to support these rumors? Cause if this is true......

[Walter Broes]

Surprised by all the negative reactions, I think they look great, and the price can't really be beat. Squier's doing cool stuff, I have a Classic Vibe 50's tele that's pretty spectacular for the money.

[toneclusters]

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[dug]

Surprised by all the negative reactions

I'm not, people pretty much denounced the cp jazzys when they came out. I think Fender is doing some great things.

[seenoevil]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3Zb9nRsso

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OK, I've come around on the JM. It sounds about rightish. I like the maple fretboard (only with the burst) Reminds me vaguely of Wayne Coyne's 90's/ Steve Drozd's modern Jazzy.




The jag is still dumb as shit (it's a jag master minus the trem).

[stu-khag]

I'm somewhat intrigued by these new squiers. if I was 15 again I'd be dead chuffed with these coming out.
I'd be interested in maybe modding one of these into a bass VI esque model. maybe squier will bring one of them out in the next year!

[fenderjapan]

First picture that isn't from squier's site ive seen:

[Stratelejazzuar]

is there seriously only 1 bridge mounting screw, and then the two height adjustments screws?

[Lupercal]

First picture that isn't from squier's site ive seen:

Dude, Peach Guitars is my home town shop! Its an amazing place. Anyone in the UK should check out that site or the shop if you're near Essex.

But that bridge does worry me somewhat. If they'd have just put a damn tremelo on it about 90% of the people who are dissatisfied with them would probably give it a thumbs up.

[knpknpknp]

One screw = totally suspect.

One screw also = way less difficult to cover up when you put a real bridge on there.

[dinosaurkale->]

i know it was said already, but this thing couldve been marvelous with a toronado bridge and/or a trem

[kalipigeon]

One screw = totally suspect.

One screw also = way less difficult to cover up when you put a real bridge on there.

I see three screws holding it to the body. There are two at the upper corners and one in the bottom middle. It should be at least as stable as the Epiphone EB and Thunderbird bass bridges which also use three screws. I just don't like it because its the only angular, non-curved thing on the entire guitar.