Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
whichever you choose, sell me the one you're not using!
they'd both fit neatly on my black JM, which now has an ugly allparts tortoise guard
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
Sorry, this is a bit off topic but...I've been wanting to swith my VERY red Jaguar tort guard for a brownish Fender AV reissue tort on my CIJ Jag and was wondering if I would have to
1) purchase new Fender AV switch/control plates as well so it could fit
OR
2) perhaps I could just get someone to trim it to fit if I supplied them with my current guard?
Also, would Angela be a good place to order from? Guitar Parts Resource maybe? (I'm in Canada by the way.)
Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
1) purchase new Fender AV switch/control plates as well so it could fit
OR
2) perhaps I could just get someone to trim it to fit if I supplied them with my current guard?
Also, would Angela be a good place to order from? Guitar Parts Resource maybe? (I'm in Canada by the way.)
Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
as many of the "old-timers" know, i´ve successfully replaced the guards on both my japanese jazzmasters with pre-cbs tort guards without having to redrill any holes, thanks to the fact that the celluloid guards shrink over time. since your guard is a 65 it might not be celluloid, but it seems those guards shrink too.seasick croc wrote: Actually, I'm surprised that a '65 guard and a new Japan guard both fit. I didn't think everything would line up on the body.
edit: i´m personally not too thrilled about the japanese goldguards (i have had two of them myself), so i´ll vote for tort.
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
What don't you like about them?
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
i guess the main reason is that they´re so thin. they just feel a bit flimsy and cheap to me.
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
does the gold guard affect the sound of the guitar?
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
Well, I guess it will be tortoise!!! Thanks for your opinions!... Plus, my wife agrees with the majority of you!
I was lucky to get that 1965 tortoise guard on the Bay a couple of months ago... it had a low BIN and I was quick!
I was lucky to get that 1965 tortoise guard on the Bay a couple of months ago... it had a low BIN and I was quick!
Thank you for the tip, I will sure try that before making a final decision!dinosaur wrote:
And don't forget to give it a good sound test as well. The metal guard should really brighten the sound, which may or may not be desirable.
It definitely shrinks, and warps a little too. And I'm pretty sure that you are right about the fact that the shrinkage is the reason why it fits so well on CIJ JM's.mynameisjonas wrote:
since your guard is a 65 it might not be celluloid, but it seems those guards shrink too.
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
it's mad...a vintage guard makes the look so complete...I wish I had a couple of spare totrtoiseshell guards for future use....
regarding the anodised guard affecting the sound of the guitar...the shielding is definetely better...some people claim the sound is more hi-fi
regarding the anodised guard affecting the sound of the guitar...the shielding is definetely better...some people claim the sound is more hi-fi
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
any chance you'll sell the gold guard to me?Soiouz wrote: Well, I guess it will be tortoise!!! Thanks for your opinions!... Plus, my wife agrees with the majority of you!
I was lucky to get that 1965 tortoise guard on the Bay a couple of months ago... it had a low BIN and I was quick!
Thank you for the tip, I will sure try that before making a final decision!dinosaur wrote:
And don't forget to give it a good sound test as well. The metal guard should really brighten the sound, which may or may not be desirable.
It definitely shrinks, and warps a little too. And I'm pretty sure that you are right about the fact that the shrinkage is the reason why it fits so well on CIJ JM's.mynameisjonas wrote:
since your guard is a 65 it might not be celluloid, but it seems those guards shrink too.
shielding on the allparts tortoise guard is absent (which is egregious (found that in the dictionary! ) in my opinion) and I've been to lazy to do something about it so the gold guard would be a nice solution to that problem aswell.
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
Sauerkraut wrote:
any chance you'll sell the gold guard to me?
shielding on the allparts tortoise guard is absent (which is egregious (found that in the dictionary! ) in my opinion) and I've been to lazy to do something about it so the gold guard would be a nice solution to that problem aswell.
I might sell the gold guard, yes. But I'm waiting to get my amp back from the shop (tube change and general check-up) to test the Jazzmaster plugged in with the anodized guard. My final decision will come in a week and, if I do sell it back, you'll be the first to know. Promised!
As far as shielding, I bought a shielding plate from Guitar Parts Resource to fit my tortoise guard on the CIJ. It's not a hassle at all, and it fits fairly well.
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
thanks!Soiouz wrote:Sauerkraut wrote:
any chance you'll sell the gold guard to me?
shielding on the allparts tortoise guard is absent (which is egregious (found that in the dictionary! ) in my opinion) and I've been to lazy to do something about it so the gold guard would be a nice solution to that problem aswell.
I might sell the gold guard, yes. But I'm waiting to get my amp back from the shop (tube change and general check-up) to test the Jazzmaster plugged in with the anodized guard. My final decision will come in a week and, if I do sell it back, you'll be the first to know. Promised!
As far as shielding, I bought a shielding plate from Guitar Parts Resource to fit my tortoise guard on the CIJ. It's not a hassle at all, and it fits fairly well.
I'd choose the tortoise guard for looks by the way, you're very lucky to have such a beautiful 60's guard so you'd better use it.
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
I suggest the diplomatice route. Get another Jazzmaster and use both.
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
My personal experience with the sound change is that the gold guard makes a noticable difference in the brightness of the guitar. It was pretty easy to tell unplugged. And my current gold guard 59 is the brightest I have by far. Might just be in my head though.
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
dinosaur wrote: My personal experience with the sound change is that the gold guard makes a noticable difference in the brightness of the guitar. It was pretty easy to tell unplugged. And my current gold guard 59 is the brightest I have by far. Might just be in my head though.
It's probably NOT just in your head! I already noticed that the guitar resonates more unplugged... I just can't wait to try it plugged in my amp, though!
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Re: Gold guard or tortoise shell ? (Lots of images)
Bit late maybe but I voted for tortoise, imo it looks better on sunburst (where the brass guard is maybe more suited for opaque colours). Having a nice 1965 plate helps of course I also prefer the look of my '63 plate to the newer ones.