I played my first electric XII at GC today!

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I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by RumorsOFsurF » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:42 pm

I went in to Guitar Center today to poke around.  I finally played the sunburst Electric XII that they have had forever.  With a little tuning, it sounded great through a floor model Super Reverb RI!!  They want $2400 for it, and they claim it is a 66'.  The knobs are the only thing that appear to be blatantly incorrect...But the finish is beautiful and the thing sounds amazing!
I should have written the serial down!  It's a shame to see such a nice vintage instrument in the corporate whorehouse!

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I really want one!! :? :? :? :?
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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by DB » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:06 pm

Looks pretty good, and the black witch hats are still available as NOS I believe.  Sounds like a pretty fair price if it looks as good as the photos and plays well.  Do yourself a favor and part with some cash  ;)

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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by daydreamdelay » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:24 pm

if you happen to know where those correct NOS witch hats are kindly point me in the direction!  ;)


looks nice from what I can tell by those pics, man that little bit of GC looks exactly like the one here.. I have no idea why I'd be surprised by that though.

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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by mezcalhead » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:13 pm

XII through 4x10" Fender amp must be jangle heaven .. which makes it even more surprising that those are the first pics I've seen of you not smiling!

Justin, that also seems to have a really dark pickguard like yours .. ?
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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by Marc » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:22 pm

Yes there was a batch of dark XII pickguards in '66..... like this minty example......

http://www.gbase.com/Powered/GearDetail ... tem=855911

these XII's are relatively speaking cheap - a mint condition full scale no issues vintage fender for $3k????
Yes the cat has opposing thumbs and extra digits.

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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by fenderjapan » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:25 am

I'm really into '66 picguards, dark red and a white edge around the guard  :? :?

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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by Amber » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:05 am

The XII bodies look smaller than Jazzmasters and Jags I've seen. They aren't though right?

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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by Marc » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:40 am

they are the same size but more rounded at the foot of the body where the strap pin is.
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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by Amber » Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:25 am

Must be the pickguard shape that throws me off. I'd like to build hardtail 6 strings XII offset with a JM sized headstock.

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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by daydreamdelay » Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:35 am

wow yeah from the pic it looks that way and the one at Action is nearly identical  :o

must have been a VERY dark batch!

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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by i love sharin foo » Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:53 am

I don't know if this is the case or not, but my '66 Jazz has a darker guard. It has a lot of figuring still, but the basic color is more of the purplish maroon color that these pictured XIIs have. My XII is also a '66, but the guard is the older nitrate and looks the same as my '62 and '64 JMs. Maybe they made the first year or so using nitrate until it ran out, then switched to the vinyl material. I don't recall off hand though if I have seen any later XIIs that have nitrate guards. That could sink this theory immediately.

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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by daydreamdelay » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:01 am

well my current JM and XII and past JM and XII were all 66's

the black one from 3/66 had a dark guard with a lot of figuring in the red but not the yellow chunks
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current sunburst from 9/66 is a slightly brighter red with lots of yellow chunks
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recently sold XII from 2/66 has the brighter red with yellow chunks
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current XII from 6/66 .... GAH! :o  is a deep blood red with almost nothing going on aside from a few odd glow spots
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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by Orang Goreng » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:07 am

Are those post-'65 tortoise guards still made of celluloid? Or did they change to vinyl (or whatever they used) like the white ones?
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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by i love sharin foo » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:36 am

Orang Goreng wrote: Are those post-'65 tortoise guards still made of celluloid? Or did they change to vinyl (or whatever they used) like the white ones?
To the best of my knowledge, they are vinyl.

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Re: I played my first electric XII at GC today!

Post by Marc » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:40 am

there were plenty of nitrate tort guard around in 66.... the sunburst one I have from 66 is def nitrate - has the 'green' middle band and has shrunk/warped some. I just think they used them up slowly.... they probably ordered more which were the dark vinyl type and put them in the 'pickguard pile' over the remaining nitrate ones which then showed up again later on when stocks were low. My theory anyway.
Yes the cat has opposing thumbs and extra digits.

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