Squier 2020 line

[Stephen_42]

I didn't realise until today that there were Telemasters / Jazzcasters / offset Teles (call them what you like) in this series.

I'd just bought myself a Starcaster (which I love) before lockdown, and now the GAS is back.

[thatfenderguy]

The teles seem to be on bax shop as well, so not quite uk exclusive. I assume they will hit the us too at some point, but it seems to me like fender just likes to be inconsistent. I also feel the same regret about not getting a surf green bullet mustang, since theyre not getting any more of them here. They also have the toronados up, and they are priced pretty high. This seems to happen every time they accidentally leak something, and the list price tends to drop within 1 or 2 weeks.




2020 is a pretty terrible year so far, but we are getting some pretty cool affordable guitars built in questionable working conditions at least!

That purple sparkle 0.0

[guitalias]

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/squier ... mal-series

[rank]

I really want to see a Fender Supersonic with a Jazzmaster trem...

[blimpage]

lmao the copy mentions that the toronado has “squier passive atomic humbuckers”. I love that they looked the name up of the original humbuckers that no one particularly cared for

There's a user on here who not only loves atomic humbuckers, he plays them almost exclusively through the drive channel of a hot rod deluxe.

I never knew such a person existed until this forum, but hey, they're out there.

It me

I am unreasonably excited for the Toronado and Super-Sonic. Trying to work out how to afford them both now, since if they do get released in Australia, it'll be with a wild markup. Still no announcement about the Paranormal Series here yet, but all current Squier models available in Australia have about a 30% markup on top of the already-bad USD/AUD conversion rate.

[burpgun]

I had one of those early Mexican Toronados and used it as my main guitar for years, first through a Hot Red Deluxe and then some way too f'ing load Deville thing. The stock Atomics were darkish and very microphonic, I had big feedback issues. I eventually put a hum shaped P90 in the bridge and it worked better. Never thought I would sell it but I did. I got a Toronado because when they first came out the only Jazzmasters I could find were super expensive, so I got the cheap import. Then, affordable Jazzmasters came and I got a few, I sold the Toro, but then got an SG with P90s, and ended nearly where I started, configuration wise.

[Squareball]

Let's just put this into perspective...
As of 2020 The Squier Offset guitar line currently include or have included :

Jaguar - VM / CV - With or without B&B (surf green/shell pink/daphneBlue etc)
Jazzmaster - Affinity / contemporary / mini / VM / CV / JMJM - With or without gold anodised scratchplate (sonic blue/shell pink/daphneBlue etc)
Mustang - Bullet / CV - with competition stripe (Orange etc)
Jarman Musuar - (Burgundy mist)
Cyclone - (shell pink/daphneBlue)
Starcaster - Affinity / contemporary / CV
Super Sonic
Toronado
Bass VI - VM / CV
Offset Telecaster (telemaster)


10 years ago (2010) :
Duo sonic - CV (offset?)
Jagmaster - standard

Kids don't know they're born!

[manwithtitties]

Jarman Musuar - (Burgundy mist)

it is the year of squier baby!!! they should bring that one back tho. I would buy that immediately.

Just giving some ideas of cool things they should put out:
- maybe a bullet version of the vista music master (one hum, volume, push pull, matching headstock)
- Reissue of the all black mij HH jag (maybe even one with a trem?) or something more like the cp/vintera jag
- bring that jazzmaster baritone back
- xii, venus xii or even a jazzmaster xii
- more shit for lefties, more cool colors
- just stop making strats and sunburst guitars. Theres too many, no need for new ones honestly

[Lamar Fandango]

I wonder if the release of these was delayed due to the tariffs on Chinese imports?

[vistavision]

I wonder if the release of these was delayed due to the tariffs on Chinese imports?

These were probably always a Summer NAMM 2020 thing. The Classic Vibes were announced last year in June under the same tariffs. Fender most likely wanted a stand-alone release away from the new Fender stuff released at Winter NAMM. Probably because Squier's are more interesting!

[Mechanical Birds]

I really want to see a Fender Supersonic with a Jazzmaster trem...

Google “Fender Jaguar with humbuckers”

[Mechanical Birds]

Jarman Musuar - (Burgundy mist)

it is the year of squier baby!!! they should bring that one back tho. I would buy that immediately.

Just giving some ideas of cool things they should put out:
- maybe a bullet version of the vista music master (one hum, volume, push pull, matching headstock)
- Reissue of the all black mij HH jag (maybe even one with a trem?) or something more like the cp/vintera jag
- bring that jazzmaster baritone back
- xii, venus xii or even a jazzmaster xii
- more shit for lefties, more cool colors
- just stop making strats and sunburst guitars. Theres too many, no need for new ones honestly

Fender will and should always and forever make Sunburst guitars that’s their thing but I get it and agree otherwise - I honestly don’t see what would be so hard about doing things the way they used to with custom colors. Have a palette, pay standard fare for the burst or another $30/50 for whatever custom color. I have no idea about the logistics in guitar manufacturers’ finishing stuff but if they’re making one production guitar in a certain color there’s no reason to me why they couldn’t make all their guitars in that same color.

And ideas:

- CV Jag Stang, maybe a sparkle finish or two?
- Something closer to the actual Marauder II prototypes, even if they’d use Jag switches or have fewer options, that thing they did with the TRIPLE BUCKER was embarrassing
- Jazzblaster
- XII of some kind of course but maybe one with a tremolo similar to that Diemal Lee Ranaldo thing or some of the old MIJ offsets that had a tremolo and 12 strings
- Tele Deluxe with offset tremolo (not the Jazz Tele, just a normal TD with a trem)
- Lipstick Jaguar, maybe a triple pickup version?
- Starcaster XII
- Matching headstocks! If the CV Jag had a matching headstock I’d have preordered the black one the day they were announced
- Surfcaster - they own the rights to them, come on!
- Musicmaster with Offset Tremolo, kinda like the BELlInDa Butcher thing I guess
- This is way too tall an order but onboard effects would be really cool and it’s something I’m surprised we don’t already see more people doing because to me, Bilt is like the coolest and most exciting small batch guitar company in the world and like 90% of their thing is existing Fender ideas... getting a 3 pickup lipstick Jaguar with a nasty fuzz button on it would be incredible. Jeez, even if they just made the guitars and purposefully routed out a bunch of extra space explicitly for mods and adding stuff would be really, really cool. Not a lot of existing room in a typically-routed Jaguar


Mainly though I just wish Fender did literally any new proprietary stuff. That dude who made a brand new tremolo system for those custoM shop guitars is the most exciting thing, to me, I’ve seen from them in maybe my whole life. Companies get a bad rap from the 1970s, QC shitting the bed on classic favorites or whatever, but Fender and Gibson both seemed to be churning out new ideas pretty often and it’s not really like that anymore. We all complain about the Mr. Potato Head gimmick these companies seem to embrace these past few years, but really, can you even imagine how awesome it’d be to see Fender come out with an entirely new design with zero existing parts? A new body shape, which admittedly they’ve done a bunch, but then if it had an entirely new kind of pickup/technology, an entirely new trem system, etc. etc. etc. I know they weren’t always slam dunks, like the Marauder, had it actually happened, would have been dumb as hell with a Mustang Tremolo, or like the Bronco trem isn’t anyone I’ve ever met’s favorite, but at least it was something new.

It’s real hard for me to give a shit about G&L for this reason. Their pickup game is actually really awesome but no matter what your only option if you want a tremolo is their one, single thing. I rely on, or at least am greatly comforted by the existence of, a trem system in my guitars. Even if I’m not hammering it constantly, it feels weird/cheap to not have access to one if I’m playing a guitar. I’d just like to try something new I’ve never seen before.

[Mechanical Birds]

Also really wish Fender would shit or get off the pot WRT Sunn

Those are like hands down every dickhead who plays heavy music’s favorite, most coveted amps, and they insist on keeping the brand buried. I’ve tried real hard to find some history on that short reissue line they did but have had no luck. The ads I’ve found for like the model T reissues are all from the early 2000s and it seems like what happened was they relaunched the brand with a few amps that are nothing like what the originals were, but were still competent serviceable amps in their own right, sold them for like a year, blew the inventory out around Christmas of 2001 and stopped making them aside from the Bassman 300/300T or whatever. Kind of a shame/stupid considering the fact that people want them explicitly because they do the whole Fender thing of really loud while staying clean, but the relaunch has them doing some dual channel Mesa thing?

All I’m saying is, people are paying ~$2,000 all day for custom T clones. Seems like Fender could make a lot of money and gain a whole lot of goodwill from a constituency who typically don’t use their stuff, and said constituency could save some serious money by buying a more faithful to the original but still manufactured by Fender variant of a lot of those old amps.

Or, sell the trademark to someone who can put it to good use but not hurt them as a company in any way

[rank]

I really want to see a Fender Supersonic with a Jazzmaster trem...

Google “Fender Jaguar with humbuckers”

Not what I am looking for but thanks all the same.

[manwithtitties]

Also really wish Fender would shit or get off the pot WRT Sunn

Those are like hands down every dickhead who plays heavy music’s favorite, most coveted amps, and they insist on keeping the brand buried. I’ve tried real hard to find some history on that short reissue line they did but have had no luck. The ads I’ve found for like the model T reissues are all from the early 2000s and it seems like what happened was they relaunched the brand with a few amps that are nothing like what the originals were, but were still competent serviceable amps in their own right, sold them for like a year, blew the inventory out around Christmas of 2001 and stopped making them aside from the Bassman 300/300T or whatever. Kind of a shame/stupid considering the fact that people want them explicitly because they do the whole Fender thing of really loud while staying clean, but the relaunch has them doing some dual channel Mesa thing?

All I’m saying is, people are paying ~$2,000 all day for custom T clones. Seems like Fender could make a lot of money and gain a whole lot of goodwill from a constituency who typically don’t use their stuff, and said constituency could save some serious money by buying a more faithful to the original but still manufactured by Fender variant of a lot of those old amps.

Or, sell the trademark to someone who can put it to good use but not hurt them as a company in any way

oh yeah ive been thinking the same thing for a while. design wise, sunns are basically the only good looking amps imo, and if they can just reissue the insanely high headroom clean amp heads that sound kinda close to the originals, huge oversized cabs, and like a reasonably priced good basic solid state amp (without effects) that is just a fucking jc alternative like they did in the 80s, they would probably sell pretty well.

i know they are niche products, but those niche metal and shoegaze subgenres tend to love to overspend on gimmicky gear like stupid reverb combination pedals (myself included!). jazzmasters were niche once too, but they figured out what to do with them. im sure they could do the same with sunn. no one gives a shit about amps with drive channels anymore. just make huge loud clean amps that take pedals well. maybe make them slightly lighter.