Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
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by kapepper » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:22 am
I guess most of your already saw this on social media from our friends at TVG
What do you think?
a 1966 fender Marauder
Except for being rare, it feels like a Fender jaguar crossbred with a fender strat and some Japanese/german touches...
Any thoughts?
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by JSett » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:25 am
I saw this and it's great to see a decent video with close-ups.
He's definitely gonna try and sell this for about 50-75k, maybe more.
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by Ceylon » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:46 am
I think this should have the Starcaster headstock, I wouldn't need all the switching options and I'm not sure how different to a Strat it'd sound being full scale and all. On top of that, the Mustang vibrato isn't my favorite. And yet, despite all that, I think this is probably the best looking guitar Fender ever designed. It's peak offset weirdness pretty much.
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by zhivago » Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:26 am
It's a very cool guitar for sure...I guess it also shows what happens when you go too far designing stuff...it looks
so complicated!
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by CCOffset » Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:54 pm
Hey thanks for posting! John here (@Truevintageguitar on IG and Truevintageguitar.com). Yes; I was really blown away when I first saw this Marauder. I'm happy to answer any Marauder questions you guys may have. I am currently editing photos and writing up some info on my blog for those who may be interested.
The most surprising bit of it (to me) was the white rocker switches: they're actually regular ol' slide switches like those found on the JM/Jag rhythm circuit. The white switch sits on an axle on top and pushes the slider! Pic below

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by fuzzjunkie » Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:24 pm
CCOffset wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:54 pm
Hey thanks for posting! John here (@Truevintageguitar on IG and Truevintageguitar.com). Yes; I was really blown away when I first saw this Marauder. I'm happy to answer any Marauder questions you guys may have. I am currently editing photos and writing up some info on my blog for those who may be interested.
The most surprising bit of it (to me) was the white rocker switches: they're actually regular ol' slide switches like those found on the JM/Jag rhythm circuit. The white switch sits on an axle on top and pushes the slider! Pic below
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I never would have imagined that.
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by interceptör » Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:57 pm
Super cool stuff. But how is it even possible that the super thin plastic axles haven't cracked in 60 years?
And hey, while you're here, CCOffset, I'd like to ask you a small favor on behalf of, ehh, at least a few people: If I remember correctly, there have been lots of attempts here to recreate this guitar (and the earlier version) from low-quality photos shot from steep angles so I'm sure it'd be greatly appreciated if you could document it for posterity.
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by zhivago » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:49 am
Very, very cool to see the close-up of the switch!!!

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by CCOffset » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:43 am
interceptör wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:57 pm
Super cool stuff. But how is it even possible that the super thin plastic axles haven't cracked in 60 years?
And hey, while you're here, CCOffset, I'd like to ask you a small favor on behalf of, ehh, at least a few people: If I remember correctly, there have been lots of attempts here to recreate this guitar (and the earlier version) from low-quality photos shot from steep angles so I'm sure it'd be greatly appreciated if you could document it for posterity.
Thanks! Yes it's wild that the guitar is virtually unplayed because it is such a great guitar. The previous owner since the early 2000s was mostly an acoustic player. He liked it but only as a fun novelty for playing at home.
I've got about 40 high resolution shots of the guitar inside and out. I'm working on a full description and blog post on it now.
Here's a shot of the neck heel showing the "13" model code (why??) December '66 date, and the B neck width code. I think it's very interesting that the 13 code was used, because this neck could not have used the standard Strat or Tele jig from 1966. The fretboard is slanted (like the frets) up at the top of the board, but it's not slanted at the neck heel. That may be why the scale length is 25 1/4", not the typical 25 1/2. I measured the distance from the front of the nut to the dead center of the top of the 12th fret and it was exactly 12 and 5/8".

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by JSett » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:51 am
CCOffset wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:54 pm
Hey thanks for posting! John here (@Truevintageguitar on IG and Truevintageguitar.com). Yes; I was really blown away when I first saw this Marauder. I'm happy to answer any Marauder questions you guys may have. I am currently editing photos and writing up some info on my blog for those who may be interested.
The most surprising bit of it (to me) was the white rocker switches: they're actually regular ol' slide switches like those found on the JM/Jag rhythm circuit. The white switch sits on an axle on top and pushes the slider! Pic below
Yeah, these have been discussed a lot here over the years, and you can still buy them too! (Copacetic uses them on Marauder builds I believe).
Are you selling it or is it one for the personal collection? It kinda belongs in some sort of museum I feel, but that's not my choice to make.
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by CCOffset » Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:10 am
JSett wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:51 am
CCOffset wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:54 pm
Hey thanks for posting! John here (@Truevintageguitar on IG and Truevintageguitar.com). Yes; I was really blown away when I first saw this Marauder. I'm happy to answer any Marauder questions you guys may have. I am currently editing photos and writing up some info on my blog for those who may be interested.
The most surprising bit of it (to me) was the white rocker switches: they're actually regular ol' slide switches like those found on the JM/Jag rhythm circuit. The white switch sits on an axle on top and pushes the slider! Pic below
Yeah, these have been discussed a lot here over the years, and you can still buy them too! (Copacetic uses them on Marauder builds I believe).
Are you selling it or is it one for the personal collection? It kinda belongs in some sort of museum I feel, but that's not my choice to make.
That's cool! I didn't know you could still buy them. That's great. The Copacetic Marauders look great too. I'd like to get one since I could not keep this Marauder (I was very deep in it). It was delivered to its new owner yesterday. I would have kept it in a heartbeat if I didn't have to pay so much to get it in the first place.
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by JSett » Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:23 am
CCOffset wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:10 am
That's cool! I didn't know you could still buy them. That's great. The Copacetic Marauders look great too. I'd like to get one since I could not keep this Marauder (I was very deep in it). It was delivered to its new owner yesterday. I would have kept it in a heartbeat if I didn't have to pay so much to get it in the first place.
Makes sense, business is business. Are you at liberty to tell us it's value? Totally understand if not but this is the sort of stuff we've been getting excited over for decades

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by CorporateDisguise » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:58 pm
This is really cool to see! Thanks for posting. Would love to see more!
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by caples » Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:28 pm
CCOffset wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:10 am
JSett wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:51 am
CCOffset wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:54 pm
Hey thanks for posting! John here (@Truevintageguitar on IG and Truevintageguitar.com). Yes; I was really blown away when I first saw this Marauder. I'm happy to answer any Marauder questions you guys may have. I am currently editing photos and writing up some info on my blog for those who may be interested.
The most surprising bit of it (to me) was the white rocker switches: they're actually regular ol' slide switches like those found on the JM/Jag rhythm circuit. The white switch sits on an axle on top and pushes the slider! Pic below
Yeah, these have been discussed a lot here over the years, and you can still buy them too! (Copacetic uses them on Marauder builds I believe).
Are you selling it or is it one for the personal collection? It kinda belongs in some sort of museum I feel, but that's not my choice to make.
That's cool! I didn't know you could still buy them. That's great. The Copacetic Marauders look great too. I'd like to get one since I could not keep this Marauder (I was very deep in it). It was delivered to its new owner yesterday. I would have kept it in a heartbeat if I didn't have to pay so much to get it in the first place.
Thanks for posting, please link the blog post once its up. Looking forward to seeing the high res shots!
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by kapepper » Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:30 am
CCOffset wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:54 pm
Hey thanks for posting! John here (@Truevintageguitar on IG and Truevintageguitar.com). Yes; I was really blown away when I first saw this Marauder. I'm happy to answer any Marauder questions you guys may have. I am currently editing photos and writing up some info on my blog for those who may be interested.
thanks for posting this!
were you able to make a video about it?