What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

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What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by Alex! » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:17 am

I’m getting ready to buy a kit off of general guitar gadgets and I’m debating on the Tone bender mk2 kit or the Shin Ei fuzz and the Univox Superfuzz kit
What should I do?
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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by marqueemoon » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:23 am

I feel like the MK2 Tone Bender would be better for playing chords.

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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by fuzzjunkie » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:48 pm

Are you looking to play melody or rhythm?

The Superfuzz would be fine for the octave fuzz melody lines that MBV used, but I think it falls apart as a rhythm fuzz.

Really none of the above as far as what most OG shoegaze bands used back in the day. That would have been Rat, HM-2, OD-2 or whatever the Boss Turbo-overdrive is called, and the occasional Tonebender. But not the Mk-2. It would have been a fuzz that leans towards distortion like the Mk-3 or a Tonebender Jumbo, or a distortion that leans towards fuzz like a Rat or MXR Distortion +.

The Shin Ei fuzz was something the Jesus and Mary Chain or Echo and the Bunnymen used, but I don’t recall it being popular with shoegazers even though both those bands were heavy influencers.

That’s the OG - late ‘80s early ‘90s bands though. Modern shoegazers seem to like the Superfuzz/Big Muff sounds.

I used a Roland Bee-Baa (Superfuzz variant) a Rat and a Colorsound Tonebender Jumbo back in the mid ‘90s. Today I like a Tonebender Mk-4 and a Colorsound Overdriver clone.

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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by Jan Deal » Mon Apr 07, 2025 10:29 pm

fuzzjunkie wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:48 pm
Are you looking to play melody or rhythm?

...Modern shoegazers seem to like the Superfuzz/Big Muff sounds...
+1 for a Big Muff for rhythm.
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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by Alex! » Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:50 am

fuzzjunkie wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:48 pm
The Shin Ei fuzz was something the Jesus and Mary Chain or Echo and the Bunnymen used, but I don’t recall it being popular with shoegazers even though both those bands were heavy influencers.
I plan making music like Jesus and the Mary Chain as well I guess I can’t really say shoegaze if the stuff I’m making kinda lies more in the early grunge territory or experimental alt
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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by TagoMago » Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:35 am

The Shin-Ei was the first pedal I owned, in 1981. It was great for riffs (and uncontrollable feedback) but for chords it was just a mess of white noise. And uncontrollable feedback. Everybody I played with hated it

Owned a Superfuzz later and that was at least more versatile, and had a Tone Bender Mk II at one time as well. Neither were particularly shoegazey though.

Loads of the OG shoegaze folks used whatever they could find cheap, like used Boss pedals or Dod or EHX if they could find / afford them. The Rat pedals were everywhere for a while. They were great, totally useable and more versatile than folks gave them credit for. I had a Pro-Co one and it was ace.

Now I have a Maestro, and it's about as un-shoegazy as it comes. Sounds like dying batteries, but I love it.

Good luck with yr quest!

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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by TagoMago » Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:36 am

TagoMago wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:35 am
The Shin-Ei was the first pedal I owned, in 1981 (£8 from the classifieds ads in the local newspaper) - It was great for riffs (and uncontrollable feedback) but for chords it was just a mess of white noise. And uncontrollable feedback. Everybody I played with hated it ;D

Owned a Superfuzz later and that was at least more versatile, and had a Tone Bender Mk II at one time as well. Neither were particularly shoegazey though.

Loads of the OG shoegaze folks used whatever they could find cheap, like used Boss pedals or Dod or EHX if they could find / afford them. The Rat pedals were everywhere for a while. They were great, totally useable and more versatile than folks gave them credit for. I had a Pro-Co one and it was ace.

Now I have a Maestro, and it's about as un-shoegazy as it comes. Sounds like dying batteries, but I love it.

Good luck with yr quest!

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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by TagoMago » Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:40 am

TagoMago wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:36 am
TagoMago wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:35 am
The Shin-Ei was the first pedal I owned, in 1981 (£8 from the classifieds ads in the local newspaper) - It was great for riffs (and uncontrollable feedback) but for chords it was just a mess of white noise. And uncontrollable feedback. Everybody I played with hated it ;D

Owned a Superfuzz later and that was at least more versatile, and had a Tone Bender Mk II at one time as well. Neither were particularly shoegazey though.

Loads of the OG shoegaze folks used whatever they could find cheap, like used Boss pedals or Dod or EHX if they could find / afford them. The Rat pedals were everywhere for a while. They were great, totally useable and more versatile than folks gave them credit for. I had a Pro-Co one and it was ace.

Now I have a Maestro, and it's about as un-shoegazy as it comes. Sounds like dying batteries, but I love it.

Good luck with yr quest!
Try out some of the old Boss Overdrive-Sustainers or Turbo Distortions, or any of the Rat pedals you can find. Another good one might be the Guyatone OD-2 or their Fuzz variant. Those pedals aren't super roadworthy (or cheap anymore) but absolutely sound great, IMHO.

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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by muffonrat » Tue Apr 08, 2025 2:20 pm

Fuzzface with silicon transistors.
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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by MechaBulletBill » Tue Apr 08, 2025 2:51 pm

fuzz face with bias control gives a lot of different textures
i think many more people should try the dizzy tone circuit. many various sounds and textures in that thing

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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by B.T. » Tue Apr 08, 2025 4:57 pm

Lots of layering guitars, fuzz, distortion. I’d reach for a Big Muff to get in that ballpark.
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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by i love sharin foo » Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:40 pm

There’s not much that couldn’t be accomplished with a Rat, Big Muff, and a Fuzz Face. I think those are 3 of the cheapest, easiest to use, and most widely available dirtboxes out there. All are great for chords as well as single note stuff.
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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by del » Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:15 am

i love sharin foo wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:40 pm
There’s not much that couldn’t be accomplished with a Rat, Big Muff, and a Fuzz Face. I think those are 3 of the cheapest, easiest to use, and most widely available dirtboxes out there. All are great for chords as well as single note stuff.
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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by therizzla » Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:46 am

I really like my Barber Exacta fuzz, lots of useable tone shaping options.
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Re: What would be a good old school fuzz for shoegaze

Post by Alex! » Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:11 am

What about octave fuzz? Would that be a option?
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