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[StevenO]

yeah you can slide/flip the E string nut to the side to use those two extra frets, or just have it standard. i don't really see the point though. i mean, most people tune to drop D in order to be able to play fast power chord riffs with just one finger right? all this does is adding the possibility to play an open D... weird feature, but i think i also have seen it before on a bass.

I saw the same sort of thing on a bass, but instead of there being an extra two frets, there was a little screw and a swich on the bass, so you tuned the low string to D, flicked the "switch", which put a bit more tension on the string, and tuned that tension with the screw thingy, to bring it up to E. So you could go from standard to Drop D at the flick of a switch, if you get me.

A gimmick if ever there was one!

http://www.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php ... t_list&c=6

Those are actually quite common. A lot of bass players use those. Seem to work fine, although I've never used one.

[FireAarro]

yeah you can slide/flip the E string nut to the side to use those two extra frets, or just have it standard. i don't really see the point though. i mean, most people tune to drop D in order to be able to play fast power chord riffs with just one finger right? all this does is adding the possibility to play an open D... weird feature, but i think i also have seen it before on a bass.

Yeah, a lot of double basses have these.

[RumorsOFsurF]

EVH used the D-tuna, or something like that, but it was mounted at the bridge.  The original though, was the Scruggs tuner...

[rabidhamster]

that is one hideous bitch, but Id totally hit it.

just not for 2.5k

[~*blissedandgone*~]

It looks like the idea for it came from someone doodling one day in the ESP factory. Someone was bored and drew up a prototype combining all the features of recognizable guitars. Then the boss walks by, and loves it. They put it into production, and the guy who did it as only a doodle is now a complete tool and his lame ass creation is ridiculed by countless guitar freaks all over the world.


The added fretboard is gimmick city in the vein of Fender Body Guards, the arm rest pickugard things on Gretchs, and the effect modules you could put into Electra guitars in the 70's. Well....the effect thing is sort of cool.

[RumorsOFsurF]

The added fretboard is gimmick city in the vein of Fender Body Guards, the arm rest pickugard things on Gretchs, and the effect modules you could put into Electra guitars in the 70's. Well....the effect thing is sort of cool.

Yeah, but I'd still like to own all of those old "gimmicky" items!   Just for cool factor...

[~*blissedandgone*~]

The added fretboard is gimmick city in the vein of Fender Body Guards, the arm rest pickugard things on Gretchs, and the effect modules you could put into Electra guitars in the 70's. Well....the effect thing is sort of cool.

Yeah, but I'd still like to own all of those old "gimmicky" items!   Just for cool factor...

True. I passed on a Jaguar Body Guard a few months back for some reason. It sold for $15 or so dollars on ebay, totally unheard of for those things. Now, the Electra, I would LOVE to have a vintage Electra. I was THIS close to building an 80's Electra Phenonix (their Strat model) from parts on ebay when I was like 17. It was a gorgeous gold sparkle body that the owner had a clear pickguard for, and I was all excited to get it, but was outbid at the last second.

[m0n0mania]

Kubiki Factor bass had the extra low frets, makes some kind of sense on a bass, one note at a time, but guitar?

[brunning]

an unfortunate example of rehashing 50 year old designs, mixing them up and passing them off as innovation.

that body is vaguely musiclander-esque.

[brunning]

check out the yamaha SGV800:

[Jay]

I had a vintage one of those but it was a XII.  I sold it to a Japanese guy at a guitar show years ago for more then twice what I paid even though the zero fret (and end of the board) was cut out and a brass nut installed.  I kinda wish I still had it.

check out the yamaha SGV800:

[ManBearPig]

What a beast.  And like $2500 too...

http://www.j-guitar.com/sp/sea/view_det ... 40814.html

Ouch...that's so ugly, I think it gave me cancer.... ESP scares me anymore....and I own one...

[Jay]

I like the ESP Edwards "copies" though.  You can get a new long tenon nitro finish Paul for $800.

[brunning]

I like the ESP Edwards "copies" though.  You can get a new long tenon nitro finish Paul for $800.

edwards mij gibson knockoffs are seriously fantastic guitars. those, along with the tokais, are excellent alternatives to $$$ gibsons.

[Ursoluno]

Interestingly enough, I ran across that guitar the other day.

It's a signature model for a Japanese player by the name of "Char."  A few more of his signature models are below.







The guy appears to have an interesting eye.  I don't think the designs are all that hideous.  If anything, they're unique.