Staytrem vs. Mastery or Mastery vs. Staytrem

[spacecadet]

Those pics look like they were shot at a bit of an angle so that the high-e appears to be close to the edge of the fretboard. Notice how you can see a bit of the neck heel on the bass side of the guitar.

A few more then:

Vintage: http://www.vintageandrare.com/uploads/p ... iginal.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AVRI: http://guitarsandaudio.com/extras/2008G ... usJMsg.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AVRI: http://www.vintageandrare.com/uploads/p ... iginal.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[nobody]

I see exactly what you're saying. Hmmm... That's interesting.

[spacecadet]

And not to take over this thread (please continue your regularly scheduled conversation), but just to show exactly what I'm talking about on my own guitars:

CIJ:


AVRI:


It's not like there's something *wrong* with the AVRI, it's just got a high E closer to the edge than I like, whereas the low E is actually a little further in than on the CIJ. But it's not so dramatic that I think the guitar was actually made wrong, it's just a variance. I tried just setting the high E one slot further in, but then it pings and dies when I play it (even though it's clear of all screws - I did check that). That's why I'm thinking the bridge is at least part of the problem.

[_nash]

From all the examples you've found I'm not sure if it's even really "variance" as much as by design.

Here's my Jag with Staytrem and Jazzmaster with Mustang reissue bridge. I had to adjust my neck a bit to get the high e off the edge.
You could always move the strings in on your JM bridge to mimic the spacing of the Staytrem to see if you like/can handle it.

[Despot]

Just ordered a staytrem for my CIJ - I have one (well, the stock bridge) on my Marr and it works great - easy to intonate, rock solid tuning (even with heavy use of the trem) - just great. Their idea to stick bushings on the end of the bridge posts (and to use bigger screws) seems so obvious in retrospect ... like all great designs.

I've a mastery on my '65 - which has certainly increased sustain (as advertised I guess) and there's no doubt that a lot of thought has gone into the design and manufacture of it ... but I can't say that it offers huge improvements over the staytrem (which works out cheaper for those of us based in Europe). I'm happy to leave the mastery on here - but I think in future if I'm going to replace bridges I'll be going the staytrem route.

On the string spacing issue, I haven't even noticed the strings being further in on the high/low E sides with the staytrem - I did have some issues getting the spacing where I wanted it to be on the stock '65 bridge (the thread seemed to be in the space where I wanted the string to be for some reason!), but the Mastery spacing is perfect. Same with the Marr - no issues with strings rolling off the edges of the fingerboards. The only guitar I've ever come across where the string spacing was too tight is my Rickenbacker, which has a very narrow nut.

[parry]

Staytrem arrived today. It feels really solid. I'm anxious to give it a try.

Question is:
Remove Mastery from Jazzmaster and try it now...
or
Wait for new Jag to arrive

[_nash]

Staytrem arrived today. It feels really solid. I'm anxious to give it a try.

Question is:
Remove Mastery from Jazzmaster and try it now...
or
Wait for new Jag to arrive

Try
It
Now!
You've got nothing to lose.

[parry]

Only if you post a full pic of that jag

[parry]

Wait a second...
Did you have to fuss around with your Staytrem bridge to get it to work with the mute on your jag?!

(please say no... please say no...)

[empyrean]

Wait a second...
Did you have to fuss around with your Staytrem bridge to get it to work with the mute on your jag?!

(please say no... please say no...)

Yes. I think as per the Johnny Marr jag, they made the posts thicker on them, and therefore Jag mutes require some drilling.

No personal experience with this, but I believe that's the case.

[parry]

God, I hope you're wrong.

[empyrean]

God, I hope you're wrong.

Me too as I'm just going out the door to sell some gear to possibly buy one.

According to forumite HP Hovercraft though:

It's slightly different to the one that Staytrem made for the Marr, although it does have the thicker posts and bushings.

Sidenote: a mute will not fit on these without drilling.

[theguardian]

I have been thinking of the staytrem but my neck has a 12" radius. I wonder if the 9.5 radius would feel off?

[gusman2x]

I've got one on the way for my cij jag. Very excited!

[parry]

God, I hope you're wrong.

Me too as I'm just going out the door to sell some gear to possibly buy one.

According to forumite HP Hovercraft though:

It's slightly different to the one that Staytrem made for the Marr, although it does have the thicker posts and bushings.

Sidenote: a mute will not fit on these without drilling.

We might be in luck!
I don't have precise callipers to measure, but the posts on mine look to be the same size as my AVRI bridge
Maybe they changed them slightly?
(crosses fingers)