My new old Deville (Hot Rod Tube swaps)

JazzBlaster · Post by **JazzBlaster** » Sun May 13, 2007 12:12 am

it brings the question what is more important, the song or what gear it was played on?

chrisjedijane · Post by **chrisjedijane** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:38 am

I'll try that 12AY7 mod, I always wanted more headroom from my deluxe!

Superfuzz · Post by **Superfuzz** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:40 am

chrisjedijane wrote: I'll try that 12AY7 mod, I always wanted more headroom from my deluxe!

+1, I'm just curious of how the distorted channel will turn out..

Hey David, no changing of the bias is needed, right? I only have to swap the tube?

chrisjedijane · Post by **chrisjedijane** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:55 am

Me too - I use the drive channel quite a lot, but if the gain drops I can just use a distortion pedal

Superfuzz · Post by **Superfuzz** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:59 am

chrisjedijane wrote: Me too - I use the drive channel quite a lot, but if the gain drops I can just use a distortion pedal

For me the stock drive channel is a bit too harsh, so I'm curious to see if I can start using it again..I've some plans to rehouse the switch if it works..

chrisjedijane · Post by **chrisjedijane** » Sun May 13, 2007 3:13 am

Yeah, i found the Hot Rod drive to be too harsh, but I have the Blues deluxe and I like the drive on it a lot more

JazzBlaster · Post by **JazzBlaster** » Sun May 13, 2007 9:02 am

You shouldn't have to rebias. If you want to tame the chanel a little bit then try different tubes in V2, this will also effect the clean. Here are the 7025 tubes you can use and thier outputs.
Tube Gain

12AX7 = 100

5751 = 70

12AT7 = 60

12AZ7 = 60

6072/12AY7 = 44

5965/12AV7 = 27

12AU7/6189/5814 = 20

The great thing is these amps are hot roded so mutch, stepping it down is easier than stepping up as far as gain goes.

fenderjeff · Post by **fenderjeff** » Sun May 13, 2007 9:52 am

JazzBlaster wrote: it brings the question what is more important, the song or what gear it was played on?

the gear, of course!

spaceghost · Post by **spaceghost** » Wed May 16, 2007 9:56 am

I have a 90's Blues Deville (60W 4x10), and get many complaints onstage concerning the volume. Do you huys think the 12AY7 swap would help me? I don't really get any break-up from the Blues, i mainly use a Tubescreamer for that. But, however, I do not want it to flatten out my drive channel too much. Maybe 5751s? Thanks...

JazzBlaster · Post by **JazzBlaster** » Wed May 16, 2007 10:37 am

The AY7 is a big jump down, you may want to buy a couple of different tubes and find the one you like. I also just use pedals so I need a cleaner sound 5751 are a little hard to come buy but most preamp tubes are about $10 if you buy sovteks. I myself am just experimenting with different tubes. I also plan on using the Fender GT red 6L6 duet for power tubes as they have a cleaner sound.

David

spaceghost · Post by **spaceghost** » Wed May 16, 2007 10:42 am

thanks. there are some decent shops around where i'm from, so i'll check it out.

JazzBlaster · Post by **JazzBlaster** » Wed May 16, 2007 10:49 am

The newer amps also come with color coded tubes http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=211212

They do this so you can get the same spec tubes and not have to bias your amp when changing tubes. The red are the cleanest, the white are middle of the road, while the blue will break up early.

David

Superfuzz · Post by **Superfuzz** » Wed May 16, 2007 1:02 pm

I'm going to place an order on Banzai of electric stuff, and in the cart there's a 12AY7 now! I can't wait..

JazzBlaster · Post by **JazzBlaster** » Wed May 16, 2007 1:49 pm

sweet! I am going to order some more tubes after I get back from vacation.

David

mewithoutus · Post by **mewithoutus** » Wed May 16, 2007 2:16 pm

sweet score jazzblaster!!!!

i just picked up a deluxe for real cheap and i love it.

so the lower gain tubes really make a difference, huh? do you recommend the 12AY7's??? IM GONNA TRY THEM

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