Yamaha SG-3 & SG-2 replicas - SG-2 Finished p15/18

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Re: Yamaha SG-3 & SG-2 replica project builds - PROGRESS!!

Post by surfin_bird » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:45 am

You need to make your own trem arms, I would buy 2 in a instant! (Since they're missing always)

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Post by theworkoffire » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:12 pm

surfin_bird wrote:You need to make your own trem arms, I would buy 2 in a instant! (Since they're missing always)
I'll see what I can do for you on that.



Stand by for late-to-the-party microtilt shenanigans.

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Post by theworkoffire » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:14 pm

Look what came in the post from Paul today

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It's the same footprint as the original Yamaha trem cover, now loaded with the guts from a CP Fender trem:

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I need to modify the cavity a little to accommodate the undercarriage, but other than that, good to go!


I've grain filled the SG-2 body, and while that was drying I decided to experiment a little with a microtilt mechanism on the SG-3. First off, a three-stage hole in the neck pocket, right through the body:

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Then fitting a threaded insert, keeping it as vertical as possible - they sometimes skew off as the outer thread bites:

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Testing with a wide flat-headed bolt - I just need to decide on the right length for the bolt and cut a slot in the other end so it can be adjusted with a screwdriver through the neck plate. So far as I can tell it's going to work just fine.

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Post by Leviman » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:22 pm

That's badass! Great idea, thanks for sharing!
Longhorn build http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=62236

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Post by chase » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:13 am

Oh man, I don't need any more guitars but I REALLY WANT one of these...

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Post by theworkoffire » Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:19 pm

Some more progress to report. Desperately need to get the spraying done by the end of the week.

Cutting the contours on the second body:

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After grain-filling, making first use of the spray boothette I added to the back of my shed last year for a sealer coat:

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Both bodies sealed with a wet coat of Behlen's vinyl sealer:

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While those were drying, I cobbled together my fret bender again to tighten the radius of the coil a bit:

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Down from about 9.5" to just under 6". The board is tapered slightly from 9.5 down to about 7.25, and I want the edges to sit in first when I press them in:

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Clipping the tangs with a new tang clipper from Tonetech. It's 100% better than the last one I tried, which I think came from Stewmac. My new favourite tool:

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Cleaning out the slots with a hooked blade:

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Then my son came and kept me company for a bit, and picked up the camera for some ultra-rare action shots. I was using a slip of paper dipped in thin superglue to line the slots, he was very much enjoying using my SLR for the first time - not too shoddy for a seven-yr-old...

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Pressing the frets in with a 9.5" caul:

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Checking the levels with some weird double-chin thing going on:

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When all the frets were in I re-pressed them with a 7.25" caul to make sure the ends were nice and tight to the binding.

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And lastly, clipping the ends:

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Nearly forgot - I've just ordered a couple of pickup covers from Shapeways, too. They fit Jag pickups (the SG-2 is going to have a pair of Vintage Vibe Jag P-90s, which are as close as I can find to the original pickups) and have the same massive exterior dimensions as the Yamaha covers:

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Post by fullerplast » Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:25 pm

You're amazing, Ben!

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Post by bubba899 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:09 pm

this is a fantastic piece of work! can't wait to see the finish article

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Post by PoppaPopp » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:39 pm

All awesomeness (fantastic!) of this build aside: I really dig your shirt! :)
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Post by Filly-Fuzz » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:21 am

I'm soooo jelly of your beautiful workshop!!!
:? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?
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Post by antisymmetric » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:38 am

I don't like where this is going... you'll get up in the morning, search in vain for that shirt, settle for another, then walk outside to find an empty space where your workshop used to be.
OSG strikes again.... :ph34r:
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Post by Filly-Fuzz » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:03 am

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Post by ludobag1 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:52 am

nice as always ;)
you re not scare for your drill press for using it for pressing fret ? i have broken my little drill press cause of that :wtf:
but as i see the fret are well engaged better than hammering ;) ;)
do you glue fret or only the end ?

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Post by theworkoffire » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:35 am

antisymmetric wrote:I don't like where this is going... you'll get up in the morning, search in vain for that shirt, settle for another, then walk outside to find an empty space where your workshop used to be.
OSG strikes again....
Luckily not! Shirt's in the wash stinking of nitro, and this morning I managed to sand both bodies down and give them a coat of primer ;D
ludobag1 wrote:nice as always
you re not scare for your drill press for using it for pressing fret ? i have broken my little drill press cause of that
but as i see the fret are well engaged better than hammering
do you glue fret or only the end ?
It's not a normal drill drill press, it's a morticer with a drill adapter on it - it's designed to give about 1/2" ton of down force, hence the really long arm. I glued the full length of the slots.

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Post by theworkoffire » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:28 am

I'm just concentrating on getting the SG-2 sprayed now - the SG-3 body has just one coat of primer and will have to stay like that until I get the second neck made and the colour sorted for it. It's just for me, so there's no hurry.

This is the SG-2 after three coats of a combined sealer/primer I got from Rothko & Frost, wet sanding with 400 and 600 paper inbetween coats to sort any blemishes. I was a little skeptical at first, but it's gone on really well, and dries rock hard very quickly.

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Not sure if I've talked about the colour of this one yet. It's going to be Shoreline Gold - the design reference we used was this old Mercedes colour:

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But...I'm not 100% sure what colour guard to go for. Instinct says parchment, habit says black. The top on the Merc says blue :wtf: .The pickup covers will be white with a large black area in the centre. I'll try to do some mock-ups later, but any suggestions very welcome.

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